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Daehler 
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 Posted: 25 Oct 2019 at 3:43pm |
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Something else to consider is all the engine hours accumulated in stopping to unload. Why put extra hours on. Its wasted time that could be used for making the machine more productive.
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Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 1:30pm |
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were there some gleaners for a bit that had the turret auger option?
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 1:58pm |
Heres a web link to an interesting 2012 AgTalk discussion about turret unloading auger & gleaner. https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=340165&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1
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Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 2:52pm |
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I was at the 'factory' testing.. yes they WERE designed to unload on the go and fold back in////with OEM length not extensions/// they worked great NEW repeat NEW - after thousands of cycles and neglect in the ball swivel area the track wore due to lack of lube and the abrasiveness of the rusty ball bearings to the point that they literally did fall off in the field. We have a 72 and an old 50 and unload all the time -- the R50 and 72 did fail due to the above reason - we repaired them, put in new tracks and balls and they have been running since. As to should you unload on the go - simply get out and look at the bearing area while someone rolls the auger in and out - if it pops and cracks and you can see ball bearings , you are on borrowed time ... also never put in more balls than is called for even if they fit ... some slack is mandatory.
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DanWi
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Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 9:24pm |
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Was thinking about this today as we were combining. The older combines with manual fold augers most people left them out all day, although i do seem to remember there was someone who would fold each time they unloaded. But most of those augers had one or two braces holding them.
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victoryallis
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Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 10:10pm |
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were there some gleaners for a bit that had the turret auger option? |
We run a turret R62 sorta like it better than the regular. I wish Gleaner offered both still.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 12:35am |
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Turret augers offer a whole new set of problems and they fail over time too.
If I had more acres and more help I would, without question, unload on the go.
My neighbor only runs 90 acres but has the equipment and help to unload on the go. He doubled his capacity doing that, literally. Now he is an excavator too so he has the help and semis and he can afford the cart.
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Ray54
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Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 1:25pm |
DanWi wrote:
Was thinking about this today as we were combining. The older combines with manual fold augers most people left them out all day, although i do seem to remember there was someone who would fold each time they unloaded. But most of those augers had one or two braces holding them. |
The only old manual folding unload augers that may not of had a brace was a Massey Harris. It was pretty straight up and had almost flat spout to slide grain sideways to the bin.  It may of had a brace  but I am not remembering it.
Growing up anything with the hinged auger was up town. Because the first self propelled combines here you pulled the whole thing off if you had to take down to go down the road.
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 6:37pm |
Got out to the farm this evening to put the sweep auger in the bin for the hired trucker. I brought the O/M HOME with me to do some much needed reading pertaining to high moisture corn settings  and browsed into the "unloading" section. Was surprised I had to get into the "OPTIONS/ACCESSORIES" section, but from what I inertpreted, an F2 isn't suggested to unload-on-the-go as has been respectfully suggested . I do have a question for TBRAN, he made a comment about "seeing" the balls in the swivel, seems like you said if they are visible that problems are soon to follow? We've ran this machine for 15 years and have always been able to see the balls in the "chute" and have no popping/banging/snagging issues so far. Yes, I blow out and silicone spray the snot out of the "chute" and our machine is always stored inside when not in the field running.
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festus51
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Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 7:44pm |
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an other thing to think about is the years that it is wet and you can not even pull a truck onto the edge of the field . And have to unload on the road.
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 4:52pm |
Freed - I was not specific in a visual measurement - IF you can see almost an entire BALL in the slot you have a lot of wear. The channel ledge gaps are about an eighth inch or less originally. Most used machines have a quarter inch gap- the balls are half inch in diameter - when it gets much more than that bad things are about to happen under load. Good smooth rust free balls are a necessity, in fact a good set of balls made a lot of things work better in my younger harvesting days...
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 5:34pm |
tbran wrote:
Freed - I was not specific in a visual measurement - IF you can see almost an entire BALL in the slot you have a lot of wear. The channel ledge gaps are about an eighth inch or less originally. Most used machines have a quarter inch gap- the balls are half inch in diameter - when it gets much more than that bad things are about to happen under load. Good smooth rust free balls are a necessity, in fact a good set of balls made a lot of things work better in my younger harvesting days... |
Thanks for the reply!! I read your original post that the balls should be "unseen". We do have a 1/4'' gap between the slots but thankfully NO rust on the balls. Thanks again for the info, I will SADLY miss this machine when it goes down the driveway on a lowboy 
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:48pm |
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"a good set of balls made things work better"....yep,in my younger days...
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 8:13pm |
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 8:30pm |
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In a year like this we can't even fill a grain cart in the field, we do half fills, too wet, so we unload everything on the go to help speed things up for the cart. But, these are not Gleaners.
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