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Don(MO) 
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 4:18pm |
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My son was driving home from a long hard day on the road with ice on them, it was after dark and he was only going around 40 mph as the roads where starting to get worst and out of the dark he was on top of a tractor pulling a wagon with no lights front or back of it, he when for the side of the road to miss the wagon saved the big hit but had to sit there for sometime before going on home and as he said top speed of 20 mph had a big drink after getting in the house and called me to eat my rear-end out for some farmer with his head up his butt.
So PLEASE guys be save and keep your lights all working before getting out on the roads at night.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 5:13pm |
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Amish buggys aren't any better around here they have a little lantern on each side and a smv that's it
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 5:28pm |
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If you have the triangles on the implement I think they show up better then lights.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 5:28pm |
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Don, glad he's ok and nobody was hurt.just never know what you'll run across out there.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 5:37pm |
You won't catch me on the road at night, on a tractor, even with lights as big as a stadium scoreboard. The way these damn yuppies drive, you're lucky they even notice you, in the daylight... 
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 5:57pm |
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Don. glad your son is okay. Driving a tractor on the road at night with no lights is an accident looking for a place to happen. The way idiots around here drive there is no way I want to drive a tractor on the road at night even with plenty of lights, they can't even see fire trucks with all the red lights flashing or law enforcement with blue lights.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 6:10pm |
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Once when I was driving in the fog and at night to Luther League I came upon a light in the distance ahead of me. At least I thought it was in the distance. The fog made the flashing light look like it was a mile ahead but it was directly in front of me. Luckily I was driving just slow enough to stop in time. It was a tractor pulling a gravity wagon. Taught me a lesson at a pretty young age.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 6:18pm |
 DiyDave wrote:
You won't catch me on the road at night, on a tractor, even with lights as big as a stadium scoreboard. The way these damn yuppies drive, you're lucky they even notice you, in the daylight... |
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 6:36pm |
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Don,
Glad your son did not have a accident. I try not to go out on the roads with any of the tractors at night. But back as a kid we hauled all kinds of stuff in the twilight and dark. We were lucky!
Regards,
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 7:08pm |
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Did the wagon have a SMV? Reflective tape?
Your not giving the whole story.
Unless the wagon didn't have a SMV sign or it was snowing hard your kid is the negligent one. Even in the rain the SMV sign is visible from a longs away.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 7:25pm |
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there's idiots up here as well.
Picture this, pitch black,cold, like 1 month ago...got a 50MPH road between Hamilton and Dundas and and out of nowhere,on the bend, this IDIOT bicyclist is ON the road riding the white line at the shoulder, going what maybe, MAYBE 20MPH..... I couldn't get into the other lane( it was busy t the time) so I hammered on the brake and horn. Missed the idiot.
Now the really ,really sad part is the cities spent MILLIONS of taxpayers coins to build a 30' wide,super smoooooth 'pathway' for people and bicycles 100' west of the 50MPH highway and the 'pathway' has 2 layers of car proof barriers to keep 'them' safe. After 2 snowflakes fall, you can eat off the pathway they salt it so much.
The tractor/wagon should have had an 'escort' behind at the very least, best would be wait until daylight.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 8:08pm |
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I can't say I've never done it, but I don't remember drivivg a tractor on the road after total dark. Although I have run late and been on the road during twilight plenty of times. But here's what makes me really really mad, people not paying attention to hand turn singals. I've been on a tractor several times with a car behind me, put my arm out for a left turn only to have the idiot pull out and pass me anyway. I have to stop and let them go on around or else get T-boned. Have hand signals been outlawed? I just wondered if anyone else has had this problem?
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 8:08pm |
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I been watching all these city bots that have been out around me building their dream acreages, then they bring in a horse, then they hafta buy a tractor and loader that they have no idea how to run, then they go after hay with the loader and come home at night with a big round on the front and no lights either end! one had the big round way up in the air so he could see under it. I can't believe he hasn't rolled it yet! I almost just can't feel sorry for them anymore if they gits into accidents!
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 8:12pm |
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Hand signals don't work too many stupid people out there in a rush. I have seen that myself time and time again when I cross the road here. I have a barn maybe 1/8 of a mile on the other side of the road and driving up there and crossing the road with a tractor is taking your life in hand in broad day light. Too many people think the world is their race track.
Edited by Dan73 - 14 Jan 2017 at 8:13pm
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 8:28pm |
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Escort vehicles ? We watched the "escort" car driving an 1/8 mile in front of the tractor and wagon, nothing behind, and on a newer 2 lane highway. Also see them driving by at dusk or later with no flashers on the tractors or equipment. The side roads are all hills and narrow. I had the road commissioner put " HILLS KEEP TO RIGHT " signs in both directions because every other car is a speeding hill jumping city slicker that drives on the left side of the road cresting hills. Had my driver's side mirror taken off twice. Thanks for letting me rant Don. Duane
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 8:48pm |
victoryallis wrote:
Did the wagon have a SMV? Reflective tape?
Your not giving the whole story.
Unless the wagon didn't have a SMV sign or it was snowing hard your kid is the negligent one. Even in the rain the SMV sign is visible from a longs away. |
OK I did not say no SMV sign on the back or the fact that the road is straight and not in or coming to a curve and no hill, one more time the road was icy, no snow or rain no fog just dark out. No signs, no lights not a darn light or sign on the tractor or wagon and my son is not a kid, he is over 35 Years of age and knows how to drive, that was what saved him, he drives a 18 wheeler day in and day out and was aware of the icy road because he was on the all day, the posted max speed for that road was 55 mph and he was going slower at 40 because of the weather. This one is all on the tractor driver (I'm not saying he was a farmer) for being on a road at night without lights and or SMV sign not on my son.
Edited by Don(MO) - 14 Jan 2017 at 9:00pm
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 9:05pm |
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There is enough blame to go around people drive too fast and have no respect for farm machinery. But there are farmers like the one in this case that when they drive on the road at night it is their responsibility to have the proper lighting. In Wisconsin the past couple of years they passed implements of husbandry laws that require certain lighting. Yellow flashers and strobes. If you are ever involved in a serious injury or death involving rearending farm equipment on the road proper lighting could make or brake you. Don I am glad your son was driving slow enough paying attention and had control of his vehicle to avoid an accident.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 9:29pm |
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Now Don, you can say it wasn't your fault but them beady little eyes say different. LOL
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 8:14am |
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I hate roading tractors any more, people are always distracted by their phones and stuff , and fly down the main roads and even side road blacktops , don't do it often but have had a few close calls
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 9:11am |
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I used to haul my brans to the elevator with my D14 and a flarebox wagon only because it was the only single acting hydraulic I had. Pulled onto the high way and went over to the shoulder to allow traffic to get around me easily but some idiot had to pass the oncoming car and missed my wide front by about 6 inches next year I had a gravity box and my truck
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 9:55am |
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Farmer was in the wrong, no doubt about that but even at 40 mph it appears that the driver was over driving his headlights. It could have been a deer or cow in the road just as easy. Just saying.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:24am |
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Cow or deer don't have enough brains to stay off the road. The tractor operator should have. Darrel
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:38am |
My background on road safety comes from 20+ years of driving
a motorcycle. It was dangerous in the 90's but I kept riding until I got
married a few years back. Realized the thrill of riding a steel horse just
wasn't worth it. Now divorced, but won't take up riding again. Nowadays
everyone has a cellphone. Between that and kids texting and people who have
actual televisions in their dash and the deer population, just not worth it. Adding
this little intro to show I know full well the hazards and stupidity one can
encounter from drivers, not just in the city, but in the country too.
A week ago when the shifter cable went out on my Chevy, I called family for reinforcements.
One family member suggested I drive the Allis into town for supplies. Even if
both pitiful front lights worked, one doesn’t, and even if I had a hazard
triangle which I don’t, you could not have paid me all the tea in China to
drive my Allis 7 miles from my dirt road down the stretch of paved road leading
into the small town I live by.
Makes me nervous just driving
into my own dirt road, mile long dead end, to turn around while plowing my
driveway with a blade. For dusk and night time, I’m currently using cheap reflectors
I got from Wally World. In the spring time, I’m upgrading to super high bright
leds which will turn my front lights into floods. As soon as I get the platform
assembly redone, hazard triangle is going on back. And I still wouldn’t drive
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:05am |
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I was wrong to post this and I'm sorry, I was not trying to beat the tractor driver up for using his tractor on the road, I was trying to remind all of us to be save when we do get on the road at night.
Please reread the last line of my first post. here it is again.
"So PLEASE guys be save and keep your lights all working before getting out on the roads at night."
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:14am |
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Don,
You are not wrong to post this, brings attention to safety on the roads with farm equipment.
Glad nobody got hurt.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:22am |
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Agreed. You were not wrong to post this. Some one might get a chuckle out of those Wally World reflectors I stuck on the Allis. I haven't seen too many tractor drivers being stupid on the roads out in the country where I live, but plenty of young kids out here still learning from the school of hard knocks. Nothing wrong with reminding anyone to be safe and courteous and to remember to make sure we tractor drivers are seen by motorists.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:23am |
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Don there was nothing wrong with your post. I am a farmer and I know that we have to be responsible for being on the road at night with farm equipment especially during adverse weather. I have a friend who knows a state patrol officer, the officer was investigating a death caused by someone rearending a 1066 that had a round bale on the 3 point and the officer knew that my friend had a 1066 like the one involved in the accident because he wanted to know if the rear lights would be visible with that bale on the back. Even if and when we have working lights on the back they may be blocked by whatever we are hauling or pulling from the point of view of someone sitting in a car.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 12:31pm |
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Don it is a good point to be safe and be seen at night. I put the led marker lights for a trailer on my d15 rear fenders as I tend to be out late working with it. I have a set to put on my d17 as well they make a big difference.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 12:45pm |
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Don, you were not wrong to post this. You were not throwing rocks at anybody and we all need reminders about safety everyday. If we can learn from someone else's mistakes it may save us a lot of headaches down the road.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 4:16pm |
Ranse wrote:
... But here's what makes me really really mad, people not paying attention to hand turn singals. I've been on a tractor several times with a car behind me, put my arm out for a left turn only to have the idiot pull out and pass me anyway. I have to stop and let them go on around or else get T-boned. Have hand signals been outlawed? I just wondered if anyone else has had this problem?
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Just saw this the other day. A young girl passed the tractor/hay wagon. The wagon was empty and you could see the driver of the tractor very clearly. BUT, the farmer didn't use his hand signal until he was AT the drive way. STILL, she should never have been passing as it was a yellow line, no passing zone. So in this instance, who is at fault??? BOTH......but MORE so the gal. Now passing means NO PASSING. I doubt VERY MUCH if the kids (I'll say all the way up to 30) have ever heard of hand signals. Heck, I'd venture to guess that whomever is giving the driving lessons has heard of these laws. Al lot of police don't know the laws......I'm ranting............it's from experience with law enforcement around here..... I have and LOVE these magnetic flashing and steady lights I have to put on anything I am pulling. TWO sets, one flashing, one steady. Orange in the front and red in the rear. I just wish they were LEDs....they are brighter. Don, NOTHING WRONG with this post.......we need to be aware , especially at certain times of the year, we need a reminder. BE SAFE and see you tomorrow!!
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