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    Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 6:27pm
A co worker purchased an '06 4 runner from a local "used car/truck" establishment  3 weeks ago. He took it to his local mechanic to make arrangements to "TWEAK IT OUT" with a body lift/wheels/ tires and air ride . His mechanic put it on the lift and discovered that the frame is cottage-cheese due to the previous owner ('s) did NOT partake in the original TOYOTA RECALL Confused . Does my co worker have any recourse for compensation  ??
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  I hope so for his sake, he'll have to contact a Toyota dealer or Toyota directly if possible to find out.  
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compensation ? From the USED car lot  ? No, he bought a 16 year old USED car. Unless the car lot specifically said 'warrantied.........' on the bill of sale, it's very,very unlikely.
I've seen enough Judge Judy's about used cars.....

now the Toyota recall, probably has a 'limited time offer',maybe ONLY to the ORIGINAL owner. Someone will have to find the 16 year old paperwork on that recall, but my gut says 'sorry....either not original owner or time  has elapsed.

found this....

seems it's a recent 'recall', kinda, maybe....


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I just looked it up the frame recall expires 15 years from date of manufacture. Some used car dealers will work with you but not required to. It's just what their conscious will allow. Getting a lawyer is never worth it.
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Originally posted by Dakota Dave Dakota Dave wrote:

I just looked it up the frame recall expires 15 years from date of manufacture. Some used car dealers will work with you but not required to. It's just what their conscious will allow. Getting a lawyer is never worth it.
Thanks Dave , this guy is doing his best to NOT get lawyers involved 
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the poor guy was quoted $20,000  to have a certified Toyota shop put an ENTIRE brand new frame under that body/drivetrain though Ouch
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The phrase caveat emptor springs to mind!

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He’s about 3 weeks too late on putting the truck up on a lift. Should have looked at the underside before purchase.
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You could always google it?
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Cottage cheese?  So....the frame is lumpy?LOL  Kinda think you meant swiss cheese......brain cells required. 
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If your going to BUY something, its not a bad idea to GOOGLE the truck/ tractor/ etc and see if it has a history as a POS prior to purchase.
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Originally posted by AllisFreak MN AllisFreak MN wrote:

You could always google it?


      WinkWinkDon't you feel more important that trusts us as his personal fact checker.LOLLOL




I guess the blue has run out of Toyoaty emblem on this one.  LOL Or would this one be the blue has run into the circle. Dang is it a oval or a circle, I will look at the Toyoaty that lives here when it returns. LOL


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Ray... you probably OK in California... But if you live in SALT CITY MICHIGAN , where the roads are made of SALT instead of Concrete.... you might reconsider !! Wink
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dang I'm impressed a 16 year old car is still on the road in SW Mich as it's a tossup who puts more salt on the roads, Mi or Ontario !
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Sooo, somebody bought a 16-year-old vehicle in Mi and didn't look under the body? SON you have gots to bend those knees!!  FWIW - There is more than likely a video on YT  for that little situation! 
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Chicago uses more salt than anybody I think
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It's no secret that Toyotas including pickups of that vintage had that problem.  Have a friend that had one showing early signs of the rust problem & he managed to trade it off while it still had some value.  Not sure what year model they figured it out and hopefully fixed it.
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Mid 2010s to current Ford F150s are seeing a similar issue, Box section frames that cannot be cleaned OUT and were not treated or even thoroughly painted Internally with corrosion making them swiss cheese.  Friend, Owner at local body shop has one they are reframing is a 2015, Ford is supplying the frame N/C just to accommodate the owner as only has 67xxx miles on it.  Old Frame looks like something from the 1950s out of a dump so rusted, New frame looks similar in design but is different.

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Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

Originally posted by AllisFreak MN AllisFreak MN wrote:

You could always google it?


      WinkWinkDon't you feel more important that trusts us as his personal fact checker.LOLLOL




I guess the blue has run out of Toyoaty emblem on this one.  LOL Or would this one be the blue has run into the circle. Dang is it a oval or a circle, I will look at the Toyoaty that lives here when it returns. LOL
 
I don't think there's ANY color in the toyota emblem, if there was, it would still be there unlike a FMC product Embarrassed
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Originally posted by fjdrill fjdrill wrote:

Sooo, somebody bought a 16-year-old vehicle in Mi and didn't look under the body? SON you have gots to bend those knees!!  FWIW - There is more than likely a video on YT  for that little situation! 
 
What is the under carriage condition of SEA SALT buggies, or is this an external/body issue ?
I NEVER said where he bought the 4 Runner, You guys ASSUME too much Wink !!!


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Originally posted by Wayne180d Wayne180d wrote:

Chicago uses more salt than anybody I think
Sadly, I think it's the MDOT state road spreaders Confused . I cringe every time it snows as I have to drive at least 5 miles on state roads to get from point A-B Ouch
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[QUOTE=Dennis J OPKs]It's no secret that Toyotas including pickups of that vintage had that problem.  Have a friend that had one showing early signs of the rust problem & he managed to trade it off while it still had some value.  Not sure what year model they figured it out and hopefully fixed it.[/QUOTE
My co worker says there "are" replacement frame kits (quadrants) but its finding a local welding shop to install Ouch
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y co worker says there "are" replacement frame kits


YEP.... all it takes in $$$$$$$$$$$ ..
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I was looking at a real nice Tacoma last year. Then I raised it up on the lift. 
Holy Cow. Good thing I didn't test drive this t**d, probably would have broke in half.
I wouldn't actually call them 'quadrants' just repair sections you weld in. That was the problem, there wasn't much to weld to because of the rust. Anything you touch is going to fall apart. Control arms, everything. Not a bolt on it would have come out in one piece.

Checked into full frames, pffft. Price and availability wasn't feasible.
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Toyty emblem is oval ...........................like Ford . An they let all colors Clap in very dark  Confused but don't know as you could call it black.



Every place has a plus, I pay more for gas but no rust on any of the 20, or 30, or...............almost 50 year old trucks here.
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Japan's Low Grade Recycled Scrap steel shows out like the Rust days of 1970s GMs and IHC Light Duty trucks.
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Japan's Low Grade Recycled Scrap steel shows out like the Rust days of 1970s GMs and IHC Light Duty trucks.
But WHY did that steel only effect certain models of frames ??
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The poor guy found out yesterday from an independent welding shop that there is no hope of salvaging his purchase Unhappy 
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Can always buy another frame
That would salvage it.
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Thanks,he's pursuing all options at this point and is literally sick about this purchase Stern Smile.
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