New Guy/WD45 hydraulics issue

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   Hi All, great Forum. 

I need some help with my Dad's WD-45. He bought a 2 bottom for it last year, and he came over to watch me run it yesterday. 
The plowing went great, but we had hydraulic problems. The arms were lifting super slow (like stop a the end of a row and wait about 60 seconds for the plow to ge hight enough to make the turn)
We haven't used the hydraulics much in the past few years, but I know they used to move like normal just a few years back. Sometimes they would lift quicker, and for a while it was popping out while moving, but most the time it took forever. 
Any thoughts?

Thanks, 
Justin

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grasser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Mar 2012 Location: Whitley County, Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote grasser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: New Guy/WD45 hydraulics issue Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 6:36am
	Hi All, great Forum. I need some help with my Dad's WD-45. He bought a 2 bottom for it last year, and he came over to watch me run it yesterday. The plowing went great, but we had hydraulic problems. The arms were lifting super slow (like stop a the end of a row and wait about 60 seconds for the plow to ge hight enough to make the turn) We haven't used the hydraulics much in the past few years, but I know they used to move like normal just a few years back. Sometimes they would lift quicker, and for a while it was popping out while moving, but most the time it took forever. Any thoughts? Thanks, Justin

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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21856	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 7:00am
	Plow should lift up in about 3 or 4 seconds with engine revved up. Make sure screw "D" is all the way threaded "out" of the pump body.

B26240 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Location: mn Points: 3865	Post Options Post Reply Quote B26240 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 7:15am
	Dr Allis is correct!! on screw "D" if it already is out all the way I wonder if one of the pump pistons could be stuck? there are many parts to this pump, are you sure there is enough oil in the reservoir? Keep us posted.

LionelinKY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Radcliff,KY Points: 695	Post Options Post Reply Quote LionelinKY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 7:21am
	I would check fluid level first seeing as you said worked good before and I doubt any adjustment screws have turned themselves, maybe even need to drain and put in all new fluid if you haven't used hydraulics in that amount of time. Start with the simple stuff before you mess with adjustments or tear anything apart.
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AaronSEIA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2571	Post Options Post Reply Quote AaronSEIA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 7:28am
	"Popping out"? As in lifting in a jerking/lurching manner? Classic of needing more fluid. Dipstick is just ahead of the clutch pedal inside the frame rail. Universal hydraulic fluid will work, I believe the manual calls for 10w engine oil. AaronSEIA

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 8:48pm
	Shorten the 1/2" rod from lever to pump. MACK

grasser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Mar 2012 Location: Whitley County, Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote grasser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:16pm
	Thanks for the suggestions guys. Fluid level is good. I think screw "D" is backed out like you suggested. When I said "popping out, I just meant that the forward motion of the plow seemed to help raise itself some and for a few rounds I didn't have to stop and wait for it to raise. The rest of the time I had to throw out the hand clutch with the plow still (at least) partially in the ground so I could ake the turns. It seemed like the fluid was having to get through a much smaller area (stuck valve r something?), because it'd lift the weight with no problem, just painfully slow.