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    Posted: Yesterday at 9:54am
Trying to bail another round of hay with my old Roto baler. Having some trouble with it this around. The pickup chain keeps jumping off the drive gears and binding up. Hay seems to be getting jammed underneath the pickup bars. The roller at the end of the pickup spins pretty easily but that is not rotating so that does not help things. The pick drive belt is new

The hay I’m trying to bale is not great hay to say the least I cut it with an old Mc rotary sycthe and tedded it with that as well so maybe it’s the hay itself?

Any tips to help alleviate this? Gets old shutting the tractor down every bale to pull the hay out and get the pickup tracking.
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A multitude of roto-baler jam-ups are caused by trying to bale hay that is too wet for it...

Lots of people have told me that through the years...Wink
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I think that was the cause tried it out again and had much better luck. I need to practice making my wind rows better that was causing a lot of trouble. And towards the end it started to eject the bale without ever putting the twine on it. Need to read the manual again and keep it lubed up.

While on the subject of hay does anyone have recommendations seed to plant in a small field (5acres or less) that has some well drained gravelly areas but also a lot of low lying clay field in the northeast? I have a of of knapweeed taking over and the field should be limed to improve the ph but I’d like to start getting it in better shape.
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

A multitude of roto-baler jam-ups are caused by trying to bale hay that is too wet for it...

Lots of people have told me that through the years...Wink
  
Definitely true,not going to bale wet hay
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Originally posted by 500592 500592 wrote:

While on the subject of hay does anyone have recommendations seed to plant in a small field (5acres or less) that has some well drained gravelly areas but also a lot of low lying clay field in the northeast? I have a of of knapweeed taking over and the field should be limed to improve the ph but I’d like to start getting it in better shape.

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I’m gonna go out on a limb here, my first thoughts are;
Are your traveling at the proper ground speed for the pickup?
Keep in mind, when the Roto-baler was common, alfalfa was cut when the plant was near maturity, where I grew up, the old adage was start cutting when the field was at 25% bloom stage. This was to capture as much tonnage(yield) for harvest. The Rotor-baler was designed to bale a crop that was tall at the time of cutting. Just my thoughts, maybe I’m all wet.
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I bet the bales are getting ejected prior to wrapping due to the plants being too tall and the windrows being wrapped. The twine tube drops but the press rollers keep pulling in hay. That makes the bale too big and it forces the bale too eject prematurely. There are other thing it could be but that is the most simple.

As for what hay to plant, my choice would be a modern variety of timothy ( not climax) and if you want add a legume, birdsfoot has done ok for me
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I’m in southern Maine. The other isssue I have is a couple spots are being taken over by ferns as well. If possible I’d like to avoid spraying for that and the nap weed but that might be the easiest option?

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The extra day of drying made a big difference. I’ve been using 1st low on a d15 series 2 and when the hay got thinner went to high.

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Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

I bet the bales are getting ejected prior to wrapping due to the plants being too tall and the windrows being wrapped. The twine tube drops but the press rollers keep pulling in hay. That makes the bale too big and it forces the bale too eject prematurely. There are other thing it could be but that is the most simple.

As for what hay to plant, my choice would be a modern variety of timothy ( not climax) and if you want add a legume, birdsfoot has done ok for me


That was the strange part the twine tube never dropped the bale would be
Almost full size or just a bit smaller when it would eject. It started doing almost every time when I was finishing up.
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Originally posted by 500592 500592 wrote:

Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

I bet the bales are getting ejected prior to wrapping due to the plants being too tall and the windrows being wrapped. The twine tube drops but the press rollers keep pulling in hay. That makes the bale too big and it forces the bale too eject prematurely. There are other thing it could be but that is the most simple.

As for what hay to plant, my choice would be a modern variety of timothy ( not climax) and if you want add a legume, birdsfoot has done ok for me


That was the strange part the twine tube never dropped the bale would be
Almost full size or just a bit smaller when it would eject. It started doing almost every time when I was finishing up.

In that case something is getting into the latches or the latches are worn a lot.Clean them out really good would be the first thing I'd do.
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