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Farrell(Utah) 
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 6:39pm |
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I know a few of you that own one of these little TLW gems. Mine actually was useful this summer for me. Are there anymore than eight or nine of these left in existence?
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A(1937), 2 G, 2 WD45 diesels, 6 WD45 gas, UC, 2 WD, D17 gas, WF, Farmall 400, D12, Kubota B3030
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 9:05pm |
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Lets see pics also.
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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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big al
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 9:19pm |
I HAVE A TLB OR A TLW, ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT HER. MY FRIEND AND I SAVED IT FROM A CRUSHER YEARS AGO.
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 9:29pm |
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Big Al, if you decide you don't have time for it, put my name on your call list.
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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 11:44am |
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ok, I give........what is it?
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 11:44am |
I found serial #100 for sale along the road 600 miles from home in northern Quebec.
Buying it is a story in itself. There was one in our aera when I was a kid in the early 50's and I remember it like yesterday. This one was restored in 1994 in time for the GOTO.
For ten years I thought I had the only one but now I know of 5 in Canada.  |
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 11:52am |
Some former A-C engineers formed Tractomotive Corp in 1949. Their first product was the TL-W loader based on the Allis-Chalmers WF tractor. There was either 150 or 202 built. Tractomotive also built 65 TL-B's based on the 'B' tractor but did not have B sheetmetal. Mine has A-C decals which is not correct but there was no information available at the time. Tractomotive also built the loaders and side booms etc for the Allis-Chalmers crawlers. The TL-6 ,TL-10 etc followed. Tractomotive used A-C engines and their products were sold by the A-C industrial dealers. In 1959 Allis-Chalmers purchased Tractomotive.
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Dale H. ECIL
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 12:55pm |
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I have a TL10 with a WD45 engine in it. I bought it several years at an AC dealer close out auction. It was their main loader for the dealership.
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Allis Chalmers Museum, Paris, Il.http:// www.allischalmersmuseum.com 217-275-3428
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Rfdeere
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 12:58pm |
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I saw on the Orange Spectacular video from 2006 that RFD has been showing there is a TLW featured, owned by the Kurtzbein's. He states there are 5 known and his is one of two complete units. Apparantly his numbers are a little off ?
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 3:03pm |
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I know of 6 in the US including Farrell's and have heard of 2 more. I had my TL-W at the GOTO's in 94 Ontario, 95 Ohio, 2000 Onartio, 03 Hutch, 05 Union Grove, and 09 Milton Ontario. The TL-W at Hutch in 06 owned by Kurtzbein's was featured at the Montevideo show a few years earlier. It wasn't painted in time to be photographed for the advertizing so those pictures were of my TL-W.
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Farrell(Utah)
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 7:33pm |
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Mine still has the original "TractoLoader" decals that are still very visible that I have planned to copy and see about having some decals made up. Is there any interest? By the way Calvin, yours looks real nice. I had decided to keep mine in its original clothes as I don't think that it have ever been repainted. But after looking at yours it is tempting to put a nice paint job on mine.
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Farrell(Utah)
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 7:44pm |
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I think that "Tractomotive" was on the hood but I am not sure. It seems that I saw that in a picture somewhere.
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Armand(AZ)
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 8:22pm |
I have a 1/16th model, does that count??? LOL Scaled this off of one at Hutch a few years ago but not sure now if it was Calvins or not. I have also built a model of Calvins unstyled WC maintainer that you see on his semi. Armand
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Farrell(Utah)
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 8:42pm |
Armand, Yes, we had better count yours. It sure looks like the big ones. Nice job.
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AJ
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Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 6:55am |
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I have seen a few of these. I'd love to get my hands on one. Complete or not, running or not.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 7:11am |
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What did they use for hydraulics? Was the a live pump added? Was there an added reservoir.
Anybody have any detailed pictures of the work station?
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 8:47am |
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The hydraulic pump is driven from the end of the crankshaft and the oil tank is under the seat. There is no down pressure on the main lift cylinders and the whole systems runs at about 1500 psi. The crown and pinion is flipped so the four gears are in the direction of the loader. The brakes are installed backwards and the originial gas tank is moved in front of the steering wheel. It also has a non WF steering box. I used a B steering wheel to make it easier for a big guy to get into the seat but with nothing in the bucket, it steers hard. In 1998, Antique Power had a two page story on my TL-W. Through this forum, friend of a friend etc, I was able to contact the son of the founder (Van Debeus) of Tractomotive. He sent me copies of all things TL-W from their collection that I will copy and share with other owners if you like. This is the same collection that Norm Swinford referances is his construction book.
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Farrell(Utah)
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Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 8:05pm |
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Given the low number of these loaders in existence, I can't help but wonder what price they would sell for if they were as closely associated with the Deere market as they are to Allis.
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Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 2:25pm |
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I have one . I need to look at it to find the number. I also have an original owners/parts manual. I've had mine for several years. I need to start a restoration of it. It runs and moves as it should. Calvin and I have spoken to each other about our TLW's. I live in west central Illinois. Illinois, where we have our license plate made by ex-govenors.
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Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 5:41pm |
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rod, you should put that last line in as your signature:)
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Posted: 28 Sep 2022 at 7:08pm |
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This is an old post but we have a pair of TLWs here in SD. They are unique. That is for sure!
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 28 Sep 2022 at 8:59pm |
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I still have mine . Serial # 100. I know of serial # 2. What are your numbers ?
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Dale H. ECIL
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Posted: 02 Oct 2022 at 5:14pm |
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I still have my TL10 and also have a TL6. Both are forsale. Dale J. Haymaker. Paris, Il 812-249-6996.
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Allis Chalmers Museum, Paris, Il.http:// www.allischalmersmuseum.com 217-275-3428
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Posted: 08 Oct 2022 at 4:21pm |
I just picked this one up today. Pretty sure it is a TL-10. I have the original manual for it also. Where is the serial number located? It has the gas WD45 engine in it. 
Edited by Rltool - 08 Oct 2022 at 4:24pm
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 08 Oct 2022 at 5:40pm |
Hey Ray! That thing is slicker that Goose poop!! Looks complete. And with a manual no less. Super! Steve@B&B
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Posted: 08 Oct 2022 at 7:11pm |
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Ray, you will have her running in no time. Nice find. Now I understand why it took you so long to respond to my text today…lol. You had a good reason!
Edited by AC720Man - 08 Oct 2022 at 7:12pm
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Posted: 09 Oct 2022 at 5:23pm |
I really like that loader tractor Ray. That will be a good project for you. Any idea the year of it.
Tim
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