thinking topfuel machining on 226

you're right C tucker his lack keeps showing, the commando has no clue what I explaned above.

Edited by wi50 - 16 Dec 2012 at 2:57pm

 Pank, ive got a 6.5 crank sitting under my bed (Im impressed that you remembered where i had it in a previous post) I dont know why you are so concerned about moving crank around..what rod/journal are you going to use? You should buy that head from me so you can run some more rod, cause youre gonna need it.

wow, wi, even adding pics for everyones viewing pleasure. Thats a nice looking setup you have there..Pank, why dont you just buy a rotating assembly from Marty cause hes got it figured out. It would save alot of hassle. 

CTuckerNWIL wrote:   You lack of knowledge about working on these things just keeps shining

 

no way thats a 6 1/2 inch stroke and no notches in oil pan rail  and you right its full of purosity.

CTuckerNWIL wrote: mlpankey wrote: . boring the cam bores and using a larger cam journal doesnt move the centerline. one would have to reduce cam journal size and make some eccentric bushings or bearings to move centerline. If the idea is to move the cam UP, why would you bore the bearing diameters on centerline with the original? If the idea is to move the cam up 1/4 inch, you pick up the original diameter and move .250 up before you bore it Oversize. You lack of knowledge about working on these things just keeps shining  quote why do that reduce the cam journal size and use a eccentic bushing or bearing to move it up  in the original bore. your lack of knowledge is shining through. C i am all ears on how you have a cast iron forging facility to pour cast iron into the alleady bored cam bores to rebore them with a centerline moved up .

Edited by mlpankey - 15 Dec 2012 at 9:47pm

since i know i am dealing with guys who havent ever remove a oil pan from one . heres a picture of a stock stroke and bore bootom end. notice the rail clearance and cam .

pank, quit digging a hole. Its a 6.5" crank , Ive seen it with my own eyes. There is plenty of room. There is no pororsity, and you couldnt see it in that pic IF there was any. Its just another case of you dont know your A$$ from a hole in the ground. You cant even answer my questions because all you are doing is fishing. You will never build something, let alone something reliable. Youve proven yourself to be nuttier than squirrel chit time and time again. Its flat embarassing..

Dream on. Nope notches were for 1.800 aftermarket billet rods.not small borez eithed. They were 4.790 in that picture before getting inlarged again. No holes here

Edited by mlpankey - 16 Dec 2012 at 8:00am

mlpankey wrote: C i am all ears on how you have a cast iron forging facility to pour cast iron into the alleady bored cam bores to rebore them with a centerline moved up .

WHY would someone need a cast iron forging facility?( I'm really surprised you got all 3 of these spelled right)
 Go back and read the words Marty wrote, not what you thought he wrote, or what you think he should have wrote, but the words he actually wrote.

So a guy could run a billet cam, moved up in the block by .250-.300 pretty easy by offset boring the cam bore in the block, I would make plugs and fill the bores to start with, shoot a new line up whatever distance is desired.

Now pank, if you had any knowledge of machining or repair work, you would have NO reason to think you need cast iron to do this

Yep thats the wa you line bore mains is to grind the caps smaller then fasten them and bore back to original size. You saying add a eccentric bushing wich is the way i am saying. But i am turning cam journal in lathe to the eccenttric bushing bore. It just to me seams to be lesser work and harder work isnt always smarter work.burchard answered the question early on so keep expanding on it so i become less impressed with everyones mechanical appitude.

if i was going to do the effort to move the cam i would move it to over head . do you ever get past mock ups . crank rod mock ups flywheel clutch mockups. alot of effort  and time in mock ups no wonder you make a pull as often as the lobness monster appears.

Edited by mlpankey - 16 Dec 2012 at 3:29pm

yeap we pulled 307 inches for 5 years and it ran out of snott  needed new sleeves and valve seats. this is why we went bigger and found ways to make more snott . Alll those tractors are respectively built tractors .  Thankyou for showing that I was pulling nin 2005 and have been pulling ever since that .at least 7 years experience and as i said we had 5 years before that with that engine . The wc was 380 inches in 06 chads A was huge and won several king of the hill 10,000 lb pulls.  the h had a marlatt engine .  alot of points pullers would be happy with consistant 4 place finishes but not me.  one way to know if you got everything you need is to pull regularly and see where you finish in the standings it can be verry good motivation . It can also show that all the money you just spent was spent in all the wrong places especially if your builder is selling small cubic inches in classes where 400 to 600 plus  inches are.

Edited by mlpankey - 16 Dec 2012 at 6:05pm

Rod B wrote: This thread is epic. Asking Juder for help is the best idea pank has had. Marty had to explain how to get a 7" stroke to clear. Did you get a ribbon for participation? You say you have been pulling ever since but yet can not post where or any results. At least you're consistant at around 90 feet behind the leader. It's as fishey as your machine shop of which you avoide giveing us a phone number and physical adress. It's clear that an overhead cam is over your head. Can we see some pictures of the billet rods you claim go on that 1.8" journal? With only a 6" stroke and that small of a journal no clearance work would be needed unless the rod was a total hack job or poor design. Why use such a bulkey rod? Unless of course you are lying to us

  the 1.8 rod 6 inch stroke was a proven natpa winner .yes it is epic you see back then pullers got help from each other . today its just hackjobs on pulling sites showing mockups. never ran to know if they work or fail.  the only mockup a crank with that bad of welds around here would get is how to turn it to fit in a scrap metal dumpster.  Its nice to see that crank though now i know where the crank a mississiippi feloow had that looked that rough when shown on yt pullings forum came from he wouldnt say cause the guy told him he would give him his money back if he wouldnt name him and hurt his buisiness.

Edited by mlpankey - 17 Dec 2012 at 6:27am

I just have to say that I just heard the best one yet with the "cast iron forging facility" comment since "triple hardening steel" on this forum. I have been around the forging industry a little, and have NEVER heard of forged cast iron, or a poured forging. WOW, someone actually trying to learn something on here could become dangerous. I admire the inginuity shown here, but the banter gets a little old and pretty outlandish sometimes.