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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2367 |
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Just curious what you all think is the best brand and number on the market for corn on corn. I've seen some real impressive yields and test weights the last couple years with pioneer, dekalb, krugers and steyer on different farms around here. Been hearing good things about Becks also.
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Dmpaul89 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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I will use either Agrigold 6499, Wyffles 7888 or Might cheap out on some $140 Federal from rural king. haven't decided yet.
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ToddnwIl ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 07 May 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 298 |
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This year was a great year on our farm. We plant a little Dekalb a little wyffels and a little dairyland. I am a seed rep. For wyffels hybrids so I am kind of bias towards the wyffels. The Dekalb and wyffels yielded about the same on average and the dairyland didnt fair out so well this year.
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bakwoodsfarm ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2010 Location: Woodleaf,NC Points: 511 |
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Pioneer P1197 works good for me
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Dmpaul89 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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What wyffles number did you use todd?
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ToddnwIl ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 07 May 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 298 |
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We had several different numbers that we went with. W7888 was by far our best yielding. The only down gall is it is a 114 day maturity corn. This year was a perfect year for that. We also had W3998 yield very well. That's a 105 day maturity.
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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2367 |
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How are the yields and test weights? Price per bag? I been using pioneer and have had great TW and dry down but would like to find something cheaper. I don't know what the market will be next fall and don't want to spend a fortune on seed if it isn't worth anything in the end.
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zulawski87 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Apr 2014 Location: Foley, MN Points: 85 |
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Around here pioneer is one of the cheapest. But seems like they went down in quality. I personally plant Peterson seeds. Love the beans and corn.
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AC7045 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 21 Mar 2015 Location: MO Points: 41 |
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Not corn on corn, but our best was Axis 64R05, 62.3 pound tw.
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8550,7060,7045,700,190XT,D15, WD45,B, M2,F3,AllCrop 60
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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Flip a coin. Monsanto and DuPont control it all. Without either of them, you don't produce seed anymore, unless your non GMO. They have a monopoly on the seed industry.
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allischalmerguy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2887 |
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How much is a bag of seed corn these days? Range of prices?
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8447 |
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Last I heard (a few years ago) it was a nickel a kernel!
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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Depends on how many you buy. 225 to 350 a bag. Depending on what traits you get also. IG |
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KY poorboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Location: West KY Points: 933 |
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Just got ours bought Monday. Here, it will range from straight RD at around 180.00 a bag to 346.00 a bag with all the traits. And all in between, just depends on what traits and treatments you want. It is ALL too high, that is for sure.
We have planted 32,500 to 35,000 population for several years, but I think we will drop that back some next spring, trying to save a little on seed cost. Now those prices are from large seed companies, I feel sure you can buy seed cheaper in some other places, Rural King for example. |
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5571 |
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I miss Trelay out of Wisconsin. 6200 corn and 2445 soybeans.
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2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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I thinks all companies have good numbers and so-so numbers.
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DougS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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Doesn't the brand and number depend somewhat on your location and soil type? It becomes a crapshoot of sorts depending on the weather too, yes?
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Ben (MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Location: SW Lower MI Points: 754 |
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I agree with Shameless and Doug, all of them have winners and losers. It is hard to compare with someone else across the fence let alone half way across the country. I have been planting formerly private Seed Consultants for several years which is mostly Pioneer genetics but they are now owned by DuPontPioneer due to lawsuits from competitors in the recent past I believe. They are geared toward the eastern corn belt. I pay about $200 for triple stack corn and $42 for 150,000 seeds per unit beans. I don't do corn on corn so I can't recommend a number.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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$4,000 a bag?! Wow!!! No, not quite that bad yet. |
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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Becks 6175 non gmo is hard to beat...test weight is great,drys down well,..and stands in the field good... Runs about 160$ a bag
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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I think he's off a point. List is at least $.005 per kernel for Dekalb. DeKalb 47-35 was good for me and stood well. I had Cropland 4033 that yielded just as good the last couple years but this year didn't stand as well but it wasn't too bad. Other DeKalb numbers that did real good for me are 52-62 and 50-66 but I heard those numbers are becoming susceptible to certain diseases on certain years. I planted those back in 2011 and 12 and they were great then for me. I also had a Northrup King number right next to those two DeKalb numbers and there was a night and day difference. I don't remember the number but the yield was probably at least 15 bu less. It stood really good but that was all I could say that it did good. I also tried a Mycogen number (don't remember which) that yielded maybe better than DeKalb back in 2012 but it was down so bad I could hardly tell if I was in the rows when combining. Even so and thanks to my Gleaner corn head, it had a slightly better yield than the nice straight standing DeKalb next to it. But every year is different and different years and circumstance can make or break a certain variety.
Oh and for me DeKalb seems to have always had a slightly better test weight and dried down just a bit better. Edited by Lonn - 17 Dec 2015 at 7:12am |
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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a lot of the guys are having real good yelds with corn and beens from the local FS coop
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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Becks also has a 100% replant guarantee on beans and corn if for any reason you dd have to replant
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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2367 |
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I just looked up the 6175 and it looks like a great number. Does it yield good? The elevator I take my corn to just started selling Becks last year and that's what they plant also. They farm several thousand acres and said they were really happy with it.
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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6175 is excellent... I had it yiled as high as 230 in my good soil...175-190 in my poorer ground...test weight was all 59 to 63 depending on the moisture...moisture was 17 to 13...it stands like a champ in the field as well... Where are you located at exactly
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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I live in central Indiana and the Becks family farm and research facility is north of us about 60 miles...they are a tremendous company...we plant 100% Becks corn and soybeans...they are as helpful of a seed company we have ever dealt with...we have been 100% Becks for 12 years now and I wouldn't consider using any other seed company after being with Becks
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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2367 |
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I'm in east central Iowa, the majority of the ground here is hilly clay. Yields are usually between 150 to 210 bu. on the better ground. I'm also still on wide rows @ 36 inches.
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Cernunnos ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Ridgeland, WI Points: 361 |
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Sorry to ask the novice question, but what does "corn on corn" mean?
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Dmpaul89 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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Continuous corn. Not a corn/soy or corn/wheat/soy rotation
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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Try the 6175 Becks you won't be disappointed...I plant ours at about 28000...sounds like your ground is comparable to ours
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