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Super Stripper -( no pole) - AC

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    Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 2:25pm
Was ask to post what we knew about the AC Super Stripper cotton stripper that was built. There was only one prototype built and it was cut up/scrapped.  A few dealers saw it.  Clyde Hamer of AC was the geru / expert on cotton. The super stripper had a 72" stick or boll extractor instead of the 1/2 width Continental Gin 36" unit in the production units.   The basket was larger and had a side shift to accommodate it. The unit was basically built on a F2 combine chassis.   The cotton was pulled by either a finger head which pulled off the entire boll or a brush head which basically did the same thing and handled taller cotton.  Stripper cotton had to be height limited via chemicals to work well.
The cotton went up a belt, to a blower which took the product up to the burr extractor where a lot of the non cotton fiber material was extracted.  From there it was blown into the basket - simple simple simple.  Many of the units were updated from the angle iron grates to a pipe grate to remove more non cotton fiber material.
The Deere and Case stripper prototypes built used the old AC heads modified to fit their units.
About a year into testing the light bulb went off and  both deere and case scrapped the projects. They could build a $200,000 machine that would last 20 years with almost no repairs instead of a $600,000 + machine that costs thousands per row per year to keep up after a couple o years.   Duh.... 
John B..... of the UT no-til experiment station, developer of the Utra Narrow Row No-til Stripper Cotton system proved that cotton farmers using this system could put an extra million dollars per thousand acres  farmed in ten years using his system . It was published in all the magazines in the cotton area.  Then he,  like the stippers from Deere and Case, found themselves not at work on UNRNTC or what ever the abbreviation was. He suddenly found a much higher paying job, the stripper system was declared a failure and the university strangely found a huge grant to work on super staple picker cotton from deere and case... a mystery to this day - go figure... :-)   Our part in this was to work with White planter group in furnishing a 6800 central fill planter to the project on 10"  interplant units best I can remember. 
AC did not have the dealer organization to support the product in volume and the AC bean counters HATED the cotton strippers.  We shipped them from W. Tn and Ark to Texas some years and then back to the eastern US in other years as the stripper market, like the cotton market, was cyclical as an understatement .  Ben Pearson was the biggest competition to AC in the cotton stripper market.   Another side bar was a few years ago a customer in Ok mounter a stripper w/o the chassis to the front 3pt hitch of a 200 hp tractor and routed a pneumatic blower to feed a large square Hesston / Mf baler pulled behind the tractor .  While not probably useable in the US - it did have promise in 3d world countries where the cotton was all picked by hand. Have no knowledge if anything was done with this .   All FYI... for what it is worth.
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Wow! That's a awesome story....yeah, that sounds like the typical work of the major manufacturers...but....Deere did eventually develop a good line of strippers. Do you know how the size of the header the Super Stripper had? 
I wish there were photos of it....maybe in the A-C corporate files, but probably long gone by now....


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There are a few photo's .  The $800,000 monstrosity that Deere sells (?) is nothing like the simple units tried in the 80's.   I seem to think the 880s had a 20' head  but have nothing to base that on except 'seems like' .  I worked for AC and knew all the guys in cotton stripper sales.  Texas , Ok, Miss, Tn , N. Al  were where most were sold. Clyde Hamer was the most enthusiastic AC man there was as to strippers,  he lived the brand.  Felix Patterson and I were to meet Clyde in Stuttgart Arkansas  for a show at Don Olivers dealership there.  We checked into a motel and Felix took a shower immediately .  Back in those days we didn't lock the doors.  Clyde went into Felix's room and set up a slide projector on his bed and began his presentation  while Felix was still in the bathroom. Felix was a large man.  When he heard Clyde he came out of the steamy little bathroom , saw Clyde's technology set up on his bed, and in the nude picked up the projector and took it out to the curb and put in in the grass, with Clyde still talking and following him with the remote control on the cord until the extension cord pulled out of the socket .  Felix went back to the room and picked up the case for the projector and all the slides and clyde's jacket and threw them out on the sidewalk and locked the door.  Clyde , the super salesman, never stopped his sales pitch during all this. As the door was slammed and locked, Clyde concluded by saying " Ok boss, I will set up at Prairie's and see you there tonight.  Felix, a great AC man,  just didn't have the enthusiasm for the type of strippers  Clyde did ...   
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Wow....now THAT'S serious commitment to the brand!!
Geez, what I wouldn't give to see a pic of the 1 and only A-C Super Stripper....sounds like quite the machine!
I'm not thinking the 880 had a 20' head....they were only either 4 row stripper header, 4 row brush head, or 4 row "strip 4 skip 2" headers. Seems this super stripper from the 80's would have been at least an 8 row, with such a large extractor. Any idea what the power plant was on that prototype machine?
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Billy Cruse said it still had the 4 .33 I - but might have had the 301 later - had it survived.. and Clyde, he also had a touch of the  rain man syndrome.... we used a little more crude descriptions but loved him and his dedication... he was hyper... sad ending as his final days were in a nursing home not remembering anyone... I am sure his heaven will be filled with cotton and the condiments.. 

Edited by tbran - 03 Mar 2017 at 8:17am
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Wow that's an interesting story. Thanks for sharing
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