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    Posted: 3 hours 17 minutes ago at 6:46am
Curious...

Is it 'normal practice' to install steel roofing DIRECTLY on to shingled roofs ?

Amish(?) crew doing my old shop, left the shingles on, strapped the north side, installed  tin, south side NO strapping, went direct onto the shingles.

FWIW Job costing $12K, I'm thinking $4500 in tin and 1x4x16  boards, 3 day+-.
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Not ever seen Tin installed on Nailers over Shingles.  EVER.  Most here will strip a roof add a Roofing Sheathing Cover(Ours has Titanium paper) then Purlins and finally Tin.  On a strip off Complete Rebuild to afford for better Snow Load, ours has 3/4" T&G Sheathing then the paper and Tin directly screwed to Sheathing.
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the roof has ,from top layer  to bottom layer...

new steel tin
3 tab shingles(south side 10 years old,on top of say 30 year old , north 30 year old)
5/8" t+g plywood
original aluminum roofing on 3x4 purlins(girts ?), trusses 12' on center .
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My thoughts on this.  The shingles are bad, get them gone, remove!  As for tin directly on the shingles, you can answer this yourself.     Is it a good idea, to lay a painted metal sheet, screwed down, when it is going to expand and contract due to the change in temp. directly on a coarse grit shingle acting exactly like a piece of sandpaper??  Not in my opinion.

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Shingles needed Offed.  Plain and Simple.  Girts Wrap a Building Purlins top a Roof.  Per a Builder here.  

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Strip it with 2x4 over shingles. They will have a little control over getting those 2x4 nailed or screwed solid. Then the screws in the tin will have less chance of ever coming loose. Taking the old shingles off probably doubles the price of the job.
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Nice to see we ALL think alike !

'contractor' is cheap....

I'd have got rid of all the shingles( easy 4/12 pitch),strapped, tinned but sadly no longer MY shop.


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