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Stabilizing 3 point conversion sway arms, D14

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    Posted: 15 Feb 2022 at 3:01pm
I just picked up a D14 from my uncle's walnut orchard that I'm hoping to convert for use on my vegetable farm.

It has the SC to 3point conversion hitch already on it but the lift arms have no way of locking or stabilizing to become rigid. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas how to modify the lift arms with more modern and adjustable stabilizer chains/turnbuckles so I can use the tractor to do more accurate work like seeding and cultivating where I need the implement to track straight.

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I would "X" cross a pair of chains from the drop part of the conversion.  I'm thinking that the blade or one of the other snap coupler implement had like 1 inch flat bars to do this.  
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yes, Den is right ! My rear blade(oxnard) has a 'cross of flat bars' with 2 sets of holes.1 for D-14, others for CA
chains and turnbuckle  in an X might work  ?
one of those need to see a picture to advise.
I have THREE different SC<>3PT adapters
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Yours looks like this ???


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Or do you have individual arms on a 3rd member connected to the SC, like this ?


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This is the kit I have. There is a frame that goes between the two arms that limits the sway a bit but there is still lots of play even with that one chain. I'll try to snag a picture when I'm back at the farm tomorrow.



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those two little chains and the bracket are suppose to bolt below the rear housing and help reduce some side swing..


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If you have the two chains you can choke up on the links at one or the other end. Just check the lift height may be limited.

Ferguson's and Ford's have metal straps to go from pin brackets under the fender mounts down to the implement pin ends on both sides.

Modern tractors do the same but use turn buckles.

You can likely find a couple options rummaging around at tractor supply.

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I have a question about that first design pictured. That tubular tie bar, could that hit 
(and a bend)  a PTO drive shaft? What is it's purpose?

The sway chains are vital to keep the 3pt arm from hitting the tires.
With no implement mounted check that the arm can not touch the tire lugs.
Grab it, lift it up and down, while pushing it outward.
And check that in the full up position it is not bound really tight.

I only ever use the sway chains for mowers, somtimes. Having your implement being able 
to swing away from rocks and posts could help prevent bent and broken equipment.
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Brian, the cross bar does "some" structure in tieing the two arms together to keep side movement to a minimum... And it probably keeps the arms from hitting the tires , as you said.......... and YES, you have to probably remove if you are using the pto shaft... OK for blade / disc / etc.
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