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    Posted: 14 Apr 2020 at 5:58pm
There is an advertisement on my local C/L for 4'x5' round bales of soybeans (net wrapped). I'm trying to figure out what/who would use bean stems for anything Stern Smile. I can't imagine it's for bedding, what an itchy/stringy mess IMO Confused.
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Never tried it but have heard it makes great bedding. Very absorbent. Most animals aren’t quite as sensitive as we humans!
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I think I'd rather stack small squares of oat straw without a shirt, wearing shorts and flip-flops than mess with bean stems LOL. The ad gave no description of what the intended use was, I never heard of bean hay, but did make oat hay one summer for the dairy cows; it got a little too ripe though(seeded in the pod), what a mess in the mow mid winter Confused.
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Well, if a guy has the right bale processor, you would probably never touch it.
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Soybean straw bales remind me of a man I know who round baled some soybean straw to sell. Neighbor had some beef cows and was short on feed so he wanted to buy some bales. Man I know was honest about them and said take one home and try it. After a week of trying to starve his beef cows into eating the bale he gave up and bought alfalfa hay! I do have a friend who fed Holstein Heifers on soybean straw bales. He chopped them and mixed them with corn silage,a little haylage and liquid molasses . They did good on this ration and extended Richard's forage. To feed them in place of sole source ofhay I know of no one with any success. One fellow and his son small square baled soybean straw and burned the bales in their outdoor wood burner. Jr. said they worked well and he thought easier than cutting firewood.
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Back in the 60's when fox tail moved in, dad had a field of soybeans taken over with fixtail. Neighbor usually combined dads beans with a Massey combine.   He looked at then and told dad he would not pull into the field. We mowed them, baled them in small round bales and fed them to fat cattle. They cleaned them up. Next year we had a new sprayer delivered.
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people buy them to grind up for cattle feed. I baled my bean straw one year and sold the bales. then I saw that it was more beneficial to leave the straw/stems in the fields due to the nitrogen content. it would be a lot better to bale corn stalks/shucks for bedding/feeding/burning than bean stubble. a lot of farmers bale or have their cornstalks baled around here, they sell the bales to some company that hauls them to northern IA or southern MN for power plants.   
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over here we bale pea straw and sell it for garden mulch we get about $5 a bale is soy bean straw not the same sort of thing ?
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About 30 years ago, a woman stopped at the farm and wanted a 6 acre field of beans we had to use for hay in small squares. We baled it in late August when it was starting to pod. It was terrible to get dry, very dusty, heavy bales. She was using it for sheep, maybe milk I believe. She came back the next year and wanted to do it again. We didn’t do it, but she payed big money for those bales. I’m sure others have done the same somewhere.
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I've baled beans for hay , did the add say it was combined or cut green?
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I've seen Navy Beans baled after they were combined.

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Originally posted by Kiwi Kiwi wrote:

over here we bale pea straw and sell it for garden mulch we get about $5 a bale is soy bean straw not the same sort of thing ?

There are peas grown for the fresh market here,where you eat the pod and all. With the climate they try to grow other vegetables year around. So they round baled the vines to get rid of them,turned out to be fair cattle feed. Then government came along and said you cannot feed to cattle as the fungicide used was not approved for cattle feed. But was OK for people to eat.
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Think how dusty and dirty that barns would become after being having their floors covered in soybean dried stems. The back of the Gleaner is NOT a place you want to be when she is running in soybeans on a windless day. That dust hangs in the air. 
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If you use soybean stalk bales for bedding in a feeder cattle operation, you better have a pretty good loader and built-for-stout manure spreader.  That stuff packs together like concrete.  Or, so I've been told...
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Originally posted by allisrutledge allisrutledge wrote:

I've baled beans for hay , did the add say it was combined or cut green?
The add had NO description other that a pic of round bales and soybean bales Confused.
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Originally posted by Brian F(IL) Brian F(IL) wrote:

If you use soybean stalk bales for bedding in a feeder cattle operation, you better have a pretty good loader and built-for-stout manure spreader.  That stuff packs together like concrete.  Or, so I've been told...
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Around here some growers chop it in the field, others bale it, I asked who uses the soybean straw and was told not a big demand but pig farms and goat keepers pay well for it - they eat it, rather than use it for bedding. I didn't know that before I asked many years ago. I just accepted it at face value and never pursued it any more after that.
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They bale it Green here, stems leaves pods and all, run it thru a Silage Cutter when feed it and seldom any remnants after cattle done.
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I've raked bean stubble together after harvest for filler in a grower ration and/or finish ration for a little scratch.  It's all just filler about anything works, seen a operation around Manhattan literally try to bale up some saplings, NO JOKE

I better ad that it goes thru a tub grinder the processor of all garbage.



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if any of ya'll do decide to bale bean stubble/stems after harvest and use a big round baler...them stems are real hard on baler belts.
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A couple years ago in a wicked drought, looked into baling or chopping soybeans for cattle feed.  The research showed very poor economy, you'd have to be super desperate and super bent on keeping every cow on the farm.....which at times I see that, just saying.  Even as screwed up as prices yields and weather was that year, you were better off to combine what was there and use the money to buy expensive hay or something than to feed the beans.
 
As for round baling my stems....I don't see it ever happening.  I like to leave it in the field run through the straw chopper.  Between the nutrients it returns and the wear and tear on the baler belts and mostly the TIME to bale at that time of year and if the straw were ever dry enough to bale would be a miracle. 
 
If it does pack tight as concrete, well, that's just proof that it is very absorbent. 
 
So, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:


A couple years ago in a wicked drought, looked into baling or chopping soybeans for cattle feed.  The research showed very poor economy, you'd have to be super desperate and super bent on keeping every cow on the farm.....which at times I see that, just saying.  Even as screwed up as prices yields and weather was that year, you were better off to combine what was there and use the money to buy expensive hay or something than to feed the beans.
 
As for round baling my stems....I don't see it ever happening.  I like to leave it in the field run through the straw chopper.  Between the nutrients it returns and the wear and tear on the baler belts and mostly the TIME to bale at that time of year and if the straw were ever dry enough to bale would be a miracle. 
 
If it does pack tight as concrete, well, that's just proof that it is very absorbent. 
 
So, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?


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Originally posted by allisrutledge allisrutledge wrote:

Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:


A couple years ago in a wicked drought, looked into baling or chopping soybeans for cattle feed.  The research showed very poor economy, you'd have to be super desperate and super bent on keeping every cow on the farm.....which at times I see that, just saying.  Even as screwed up as prices yields and weather was that year, you were better off to combine what was there and use the money to buy expensive hay or something than to feed the beans.
 
As for round baling my stems....I don't see it ever happening.  I like to leave it in the field run through the straw chopper.  Between the nutrients it returns and the wear and tear on the baler belts and mostly the TIME to bale at that time of year and if the straw were ever dry enough to bale would be a miracle. 
 
If it does pack tight as concrete, well, that's just proof that it is very absorbent. 
 
So, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?


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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by allisrutledge allisrutledge wrote:

Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:


A couple years ago in a wicked drought, looked into baling or chopping soybeans for cattle feed.  The research showed very poor economy, you'd have to be super desperate and super bent on keeping every cow on the farm.....which at times I see that, just saying.  Even as screwed up as prices yields and weather was that year, you were better off to combine what was there and use the money to buy expensive hay or something than to feed the beans.
 
As for round baling my stems....I don't see it ever happening.  I like to leave it in the field run through the straw chopper.  Between the nutrients it returns and the wear and tear on the baler belts and mostly the TIME to bale at that time of year and if the straw were ever dry enough to bale would be a miracle. 
 
If it does pack tight as concrete, well, that's just proof that it is very absorbent. 
 
So, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?


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Good to know someone else has a memory for usless info!
I have not had any beans tested but pap always said cattle loved them. I don't plant them every year ,only after corn where I'm gonna sow grass. Plant with the intent to bale for hay. That will happen next year where iv had corn 3 years. Mowing for hay allows me to get it off in time to get my grass in early September. Also used a lot of lorado vine beans. Better for hay than a bush soybean.
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Hahahaha......Yes, definitely a memory for useless stuff.  Coworker while on a business trip together told me, "Boy you sure do know a lot of stupid don't you?"  While probably true, we were talking about why there's a fuel economy difference between manual and automatic transmissions.....so I thought that didn't qualify as stupid ?
 
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