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Some progress on the 1 Ton GMC,,,
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    Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 10:55am
Just did this last week and no changes I've seen for a truck I picked up after harvest. $100.00 surety bond and the process is already started to obtain title. The truck, (1962 B-62SX Mack) has been setting in the same spot near 20 years since last use. Titled owner long deceased and property sold to current owner long ago who did nothing with the truck. 

It may wash out as the deceased owner's family is looking for the title, but I went my proven way to ensure something gets done.

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MO Requires that a No Title Vehicle go to a MSHP Inspection Station, has to have numbers ran and a full inspect of any component as Engine with a s/n, any questionable numbers and it Magically GOES AWAY without compensation.  Now as with cars and trucks of the 1920s/30s that were NOT titled originally, and the owners LONG Dead, pulled from old barns or fields or woodlots, those can be inspected as NOT stolen and issued a NEW MO DOR ID Tag with a State generated number, that an Officer will Special Rivet to the hard frame of the cab.  Takes some paperwork and a release from the property owner you get it from, sometimes a lawyer document trail will assist in a timely manner.
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 Well Codger,,,like the "New Sherriff In Town"  the process HAS changed in all states like I was told by my State Representative. You NOW will have to pay for the Surety Bond based on "TWICE THE VALUE" of whatever you're trying to title stated on the NEW APPRAISAL REPORT!  and NOT what you just paid for that tractor or car or,,,anything!! Your Surety Bond will be based on TWICE the appraised value! Yes, it used to cost $100 for a surety Bond from your friendly Insurance agent but that friggin New Sheriff in Town BS is going to surprise lots of people,,,,, 
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Your insurance agent can get you a "surety" bond which will allow you to process for a certificate of title. This is a govt. bond action that starts a search for an owner of a previous titled vehicle. If nobody steps forward claiming ownership, (requires proof on their end  within one year of bond issue) the surety bond is released, the bond rescinded, thus freeing the title to free and clear status.

Basically obtain the surety bond from your insurance agent and go to your DMV with the paperwork and file for a new title to your vehicle. All will process normally and if nobody steps forward claiming ownership, you will be notified as such. 

I have done this with seven antique heavy trucks in the past and the process is seamless with exception of the surety bond which I think cost $100.00. This is a federal bond, not just Illinois. 


Edited by Codger - 28 Oct 2023 at 6:51am
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 Actually Guys,,,I put that project on HOLD for a short time as I haVE run into all kinds of Guv-ment BS in trying to get a title,,,
 Now,,get this,,,I was told by Guv-ment peoples that ALL states now require a "Certified APPRAISALL" TO BE PERFORMED BY A "CERTIFIED APPRAISER" who can charge an amount  of money chosen by,,,,,,,,hisself. AND,,you will NOT receive a title unless you do so,,,!!  That is in addition to 6 other pieces of official guv-ment documents you gonna need.
 I spoke with my State Representative about this new BS law and he tells me it originated in the Eastern states because of a thriving car and trk thieving business that buys cars with only a bill of sale, then gets their buddies to apply for lost titles and presto they got a high priced car/trk " wit CLEAR TITLE IN HAND,,,,typical guv-ment process,,,don't punish the guilty,,,,PUNISH EVERYBODY111
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Unless removed by a previous owner or corrosion there should be rubber blocks on a steel bracket just above the axle tube on both sides under the frame channel. Granted over time the rubber does decay and disintegrates away the brackets will still be there.
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Axle stops are on the bottom of the frame rail and rest on the axle tube when over loaded 
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  Hey Steve,,,I have no idea what "Axle Stops" are and cannot seem to still be able to post pics here,,for some reason,,,,,?
  Hey Thad,,the bed frame is made of 2" X 2" X 1/4" square tubing spaced 20" apart with one running down the middle parallel to trk frame. . The dude that built the frame originally used 3" X 3" X 1/4" channel 6" long welded together that worked out just right to give me 5 1/2" tire clearance so I believe I will leave it go based on all of ya'll's  comments Clap
 Whoops,,just thought of something else,,,gonna have to crawl under it again to check out the placement for the Hide-a-way goose neck,,,,Chit,,,!!
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7.5' isn't all that much. Consider how much space there is in the wheel well of a factory box. The rubber bump stops squish down, so you lose some more clearance there. Also you need to consider axle oscillation. If one side drops down, such as exiting a driveway, crossing the gutter at an angle, the outside tire on the other side goes up. This is amplified on a dually.
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7.5” does seem high. What are the bed frame rails made out of?
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I doubt the bed drops 7.5 inches with a load on it... Do you have axle STOPS on the frame to limit the max travel ?
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 Ok,,Here's the measurements,,,,

  TOP OF TIRE to BTM of bed= 7 1/2"
  TOP OF AXLE TO BTM OF BED =24"
  TOP OF FRAME TO BTM OF BED = 9"

   "BTM OF BED" IS DEFINED AS BTM OF THE 2" X 2" X 3/16" square tubing the bed frame is made of.

  I had originally thought of drilling a bunch of bolt holes and bolt the bed on with 2" X 3/8" strap but have decided to put enough gorillas on there,,,, it ain't ever gonna come off,,,,Big smileClap
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By far Easeist way to determine, How much travel distance, Axle Tube to frame mounted Axle Bumper Stops?  Add Two inches.
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Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


   Well,,,I'm back to catching up on the one ton, as I went and picked it up at the painter's and drove it home about 50 MPH as the frigging speedometer is stuck at 50 MPH,,,I have a feeling I was going bout 98 MPH when the speedometer froze at 50,,,,,Big smileBig smile
  I modified the mufflers/tailpipes from a single exhaust to  a dual exhaust system with some mellow sounding Glass packs,,ClapClap  I used most of the dual exhaust system I saved from  Jamie's 2010 Camero when we installed a whole new system from the headers back to the tips,,,looks great and sounds even better,,!! ( It'l prolly be getting 20 MPG now,)ClapClap
 Now I'm setting the flatbed on the frame,,,,, but looks like it might be too high off the frame,,?? Is there an accepted height the bed should be from the frame?
 The PO had a welding bed on it before but he torch cut it off the frame so there is no measurement to follow. Any comments,,? 

Set it on there and give us a peek.
How high above the tires does it sit?
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4-6" clearance of Tires to any form of Bed structure, UNLOADED.  Square to chassis from there.
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   Well,,,I'm back to catching up on the one ton, as I went and picked it up at the painter's and drove it home about 50 MPH as the frigging speedometer is stuck at 50 MPH,,,I have a feeling I was going bout 98 MPH when the speedometer froze at 50,,,,,Big smileBig smile
  I modified the mufflers/tailpipes from a single exhaust to  a dual exhaust system with some mellow sounding Glass packs,,ClapClap  I used most of the dual exhaust system I saved from  Jamie's 2010 Camero when we installed a whole new system from the headers back to the tips,,,looks great and sounds even better,,!! ( It'l prolly be getting 20 MPG now,)ClapClap
 Now I'm setting the flatbed on the frame,,,,, but looks like it might be too high off the frame,,?? Is there an accepted height the bed should be from the frame?
 The PO had a welding bed on it before but he torch cut it off the frame so there is no measurement to follow. Any comments,,? 
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 Well, Steve,,,,ole Thad is doing quite nicely all by hisself,,,,,,
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Joe... your beating around the bush !!!  Wink ...Let the cat out of the bag !!!  Clap
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Well,,It shore did seem that I noticed a gleam in the person's eye sitting across from me at lunch today,,,and,,,,and,,,he "IS" the very same person that introduced me to her, way back in January,,,,,,,
 besides,,,,,,UMMmmm,,,,never mind,,,,,,
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Originally posted by Thad in AR. Thad in AR. wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

OMG !!! That thing will GLOW IN THE DARK..... No more JOE "sneaking up" on ya !! Wink

and whats the story about the "GF" allowing him to go work ?? 
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I don’t know about that GF deal either?
I sure hope no one’s been pickin at him about havin to get permission to go do anything.
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Joe....was that an old "Gentleman Jim" truck? sure looks like the paint scheme before you painted it red! and....and....your GF??? you been holding out on us? oh yeah...you could puts a tool box ahead of the flatbed, see alot of people doing that now-a-days. hope that truck is diesel...or you'll need a credit card at the many gas pumps!
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

OMG !!! That thing will GLOW IN THE DARK..... No more JOE "sneaking up" on ya !! Wink

and whats the story about the "GF" allowing him to go work ?? 
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I sure hope no one’s been pickin at him about havin to get permission to go do anything.
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OMG !!! That thing will GLOW IN THE DARK..... No more JOE "sneaking up" on ya !! Wink

and whats the story about the "GF" allowing him to go work ?? Clap
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