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Walker 
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 Posted: 01 Feb 2023 at 5:21pm |
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Al Gore and myself have pioneered the coal fired heater technique of keeping solar panels snow free.
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Ray54
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 9:30am |
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Al Gore and myself have pioneered the coal fired heater technique of keeping solar panels snow free.
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 To bad O'l Al is not sharing more of the profits with you. 
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TramwayGuy
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 1:13pm |
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The good news is that solar panels will get less expensive and better as the technology improves. So replacement will be a viable option.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 1:22pm |
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Especially if you TAX COAL and make MORE LAWS to RESTRICT POWER PLANTS from producing Electricity.....Its not the "COST OF THE PANEL"... Its the EFFICIENCY and FREE CHEESE SUBSIDY they get to install them... Over and Over and Over..
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 2:31pm |
TramwayGuy wrote:
The good news is that solar panels will get less expensive and better as the technology improves. So replacement will be a viable option. |
Holy crimeny! How long have solar panels been on the market, 4 decades now?
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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DMiller
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 2:55pm |
TramwayGuy wrote:
The good news is that solar panels will get less expensive and better as the technology improves. So replacement will be a viable option. |
Figured YOU would be that Stupid. We are at MAX Threshold of efficacy with Solar Cells, that from a MEMC (Look that up) Engineer my wife worked with and now works for INTEL. All the BS and Games of Words plays out is Nothing Better or more efficient that what is presently available and by Science basis NOTHING else any better. Only way to make cheaper is Third World production. Minerals, glass, base compounds for Array as Cadmium Arsenic Selenium and YES ALL are TOXIC. Of the two dozen people my wife worked with On Solar Cells Product Engineering, and she is also in the possible contaminated, NINE have Died PANCREATIC Cancers, all before 55 y.o. Six are being treated for that, suspect is Cadmium or Selenium Poisoning.
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:34pm |
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“… long have solar panels been on the market, 4 decades now?”
How long were radio tubes on the market?
How long were incandescent lamps on the market?
How long were Cathode Ray Tubes on the market?
…more than 4 decades also, before something better came along?
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DMiller
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:38pm |
So you would know something a Engineer in the field wouldn't?
BTW, MEMC Corp was instrumental in the LATEST Recipe for Solar Panels upon Silicon Wafer for BEST Availed power production. In the last Four Decades up to fourteen different cells had been produced, ALL as or more toxic than the last.
A small article on MEMC a Copany that no longer exists.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 5:56pm |
Alla these solar panels as good as the Solyndra ones a certain president bought?
Oh yeah, he never got any. But we got the bill fer what, like a half a billion $ ?  |
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 6:12pm |
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All I know is we have a weather station that is run by solar panels and we have to go sweep off the panels or the batteries start to drain.
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 9:00pm |
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One method to fix the snow accumulation and dust loss and tracking losses is buy additional panels.
Inverters will be about as much as the panels.
I'm doing a ground mount and getting a tractor car port out of it.
I was looking at a whole house nat gas generator or backup solar and went the solar path. No control over nat gas, but I do over solar.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 02 Feb 2023 at 9:23pm |
The trouble i see with solar is GOVT CHOOSING WINNERS AND LOOSERS.. They are intentionally putting COAL out of business and subsidizing the solar/ wind mill..
I dont think the govt put candles or fuel lamps out of service while SUBSIDIZING LIGHT BULBS..... thats the difference...... If solar is a GOOD IDEA, it will PAY FOR ITSELF thru private money... NOT the GOVT picking who wins.
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Walker
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 8:27pm |
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I don't see any reason some of these new illegals couldn't keep a magnifier glass focused on the panels. Help earn a little of their keep.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 7:21am |
re: Holy crimeny! How long have solar panels been on the market, 4 decades now?
over 6 decades that 60+ years....
I used them to charge up my battery powered tube radios when I was young.....
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DMiller
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 8:22am |
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On news last night, was a short and quick excerpt from a Liberal, stated All that needs to happen with renewables is more subsidy so it can be cheaper for more users to buy in. They do not even hear themselves speak.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 9:03am |
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The solar panels are a great way to have electricity when no other source is available, i.e. pasture wells, hunting cabin, electric fencer, etc. But until the price/kilowatt generated comes down, they are not cost effective for normal everyday usage. Looked at putting them on our house, with a five day battery backup, they would have paid for themselves about the time they needed to be replaced. That's not to say that some time down the road, someone will figure out how to make them cheaper and more efficient, but that day isn't today.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 9:42am |
The good thing about snow on solar panels, is that the snow reflects sunlight back out into space... which is unlike trees, grass, plants, asphalt roads, rooftops, and solar farms, which absorb solar energy and inevitably, result in heat. Solar panels, being dark, absorb solar energy, but only a small portion becomes photovoltaic yield, MOST of the solar absorption is converted localized heat, which contributes significantly to local temperature.
So as long as they're well-covered with snow, they're preventing global warming...
Once they're uncovered, regardless of wether they're operating, they're contributing to climate change.
What we need, is a more assertive ice age. Let's start a go-fund-type program to help pay for an ice age.
We can start by building an induction coil around the equator, connect it to an inverter powered by solar cells, and run some low frequency AC through it to nullify what's left of the earth's magnetosphere (it is degrading now, as we're starting another pole reversal)... that will allow such a significant rise in solar absorption that the oceans will evaporate faster, causing moisture to travel to the poles, freeze and fall as snow and ice, and as those caps build, the temperate zones will migrate south, bringing glaciation south into north Georgia, the Texas panhandle, all of Arizona, and most of California...
After a few hundred millenia, when the magnetic polarity of the earth finishes reversing, and has reached about 50-or-so degrees inclination the other way, the magnetosphere will rebuild, blocking all those crazy DNA-scrambling gamma-rays, icebergs will break off and float into the Caribbean, and whatever mutants survive, can ride bamboo bicycles to Lowe's and buy $1300 lawn chairs...
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DMiller
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 1:18pm |
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You do understand these 'Reflective Panels' are On The Ground? That reflected Heat DISSIPATES thru the Atmosphere into said atmosphere so has little to no chance of reaching space with much of any value. Another of the CC Group claims that holds water like a Collander.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 2:18pm |
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I think that was sarcasm.
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DMiller
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 2:26pm |
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After looking back realized that, but message was already gone!! Oh well.
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Posted: 12 Mar 2023 at 8:08am |
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