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JWingerter 
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 Topic: Snap Coupler WD vs D
Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 6:41pm |
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Will an implement, say a plow, designed for a WD fit properly on a D14, 15, 17?
What would be the rub?
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D17 Series III
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Gary
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Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 7:06pm |
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Yes they will
The Allis Snap Coupler System came out in 1953 on the WD-45.
The WD-45 was replaced by the D-17 in 1957 with the same 226 engine.
The D Series started that same year with the D-14.
Gary
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DrAllis
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Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 9:51pm |
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WD-45 gas engine was a W-226 engine. The D-17 gas was the G-226 engine. They are NOT the same engine.
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PaulB
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 1:51am |
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Not exactly. Most implements that are for the WD/WD 45 will need the lift links lengthened when used on the D series tractors.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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Gary
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 5:57am |
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Thanks Dr. Always thought they were the same.
If the D-17 is a 'G', does that mean it would fit in a D-14 or D-15 that have a 'G' Engine ?
This Chart doesn't show a 'G' 226 ?
Gary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Allis-Chalmers_engines
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Charlie175
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 7:24am |
Gary the "G" series was an enhanced 226 motor made for the D17, 170, 175 and "E" Combines plus later power units. W201 was the original motor designed for the WC W226 was designed for the WD45
I am pretty sure the designation was changed to differentiate from a Gas and Diesel motors, but that is my guess
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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DrAllis
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Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 7:26am |
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Imagine GM engine descriptions...small block....big block. The small block A-C engines were B-115,B125,G-138,G-149 and G-160. The big block A-C engines were W-201, W-226 and G-226. All were built in West Allis.
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 9:21am |
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You need to take a look at earlier SC implements when attached to any D-Series, just to ensure the geometry is right throughout full movement of the implement.
The SC blade for example can hit the drawbar hanger bolt heads when fully raised on say a D15II. These rear bolts can be removed and the hanger moved sideways by loosening the front bolts and then locking them in-place, or remove the hangers completely.
I take it easy when raising my blade(s), knowing the hyd pump will relief cycle when the blade tongue/frame tags the bolt head, or just not raise it fully as I run tall rear rubber and have good clearance.
Raise anything you hook up initially, slowly, watching/listening for any interference; some of this SC stuff was cobbed up over the years and anything you feel may not be OEM would warrant a picture posted here for folks to chime in.
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