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WC7610 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Sioux City, IA Points: 764 |
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Had the opportunity to drive a 175 with shuttle shift this weekend- didn't know this transmission was on an AC. Seemed really handy- Question, why weren't they more common? Price ? reliability?
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AC720Man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5131 |
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I have never heard of a 175 having shuttle shift. Power director hi and low range in each gear. Do you have a picture of this tractor?
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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DSeries4 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7434 |
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I know of a few that are around. Never driven one. My assumption would be that most farmers at the time would have preferred having 8 forward speeds and 2 reverse as opposed to 4 forward and reverse.
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8255 |
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They were around at the time, and it was SOMETHING NEW and the Farmers at the time were probably sure they wouldn't hold up; now the shuttle shift is the common thing, once again Allis had a good thing, just didn't capitize on it
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Nathan (SD) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Day County SD Points: 1274 |
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Loader work was the main market. Problem was though that the PTO was no longer 540 when you have a shuttle transmission. That I am sure limited the sales greatly.
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JoeO(CMO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694 |
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Having a 170G, with shuttle, it will go faster in reverse than forward, all gears, no hi or lo range and has 1000 rpm only due to gearing.
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dpower ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Madison Ne Points: 1576 |
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We have a 175 and a 170 both shuttles. The 175 was a loader tractor and the 170 was used as a raking tractor from the people that had them before us. They are very handy and were ahead of their time. I have seen probably 10 of them over the years and the other day on craigslist i seen someone had a diesel 175 shuttle. Up til that time i had only ever seen gas tractors being shuttles and figured they did not make them in diesel but this was a factory shuttle diesel so they were built.
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Alex (wi) ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Points: 167 |
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They had them prior to the 100 series. I have seen a D15 industrial with shuttle shift as well. I was amazed. Was Allis Chalmers the first to come out with shuttle shift?
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Eldon (WA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765 |
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The I-60 and I-600 industrials had them, I assume they are the same as in the farm tractors. They would have been more useful if they were able to keep the 8 speeds to go with. I see a 170D with shuttle on auction in CA this month...
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Fred in Pa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210 |
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I had a few of them for the D-14 's,you change gearing in the torque tube housing ,your shafts to hand clutch now has one clock wise rotation and a counter clock wise rotation going in to hand clutch ,u lock out reverse gear on shifter cover .now u have 4 forward and 4 reverse .
I have one now to put in my D-14 ,I only use it for ,snow ,fire wood ,and loader tractor around shop .
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11965 |
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I never realized you lost 540. That's a huge deal breaker IMO!
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Charlie175 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6366 |
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Rob, Louderbacks D15 is shuttle shift. Stick is on the left side
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Fred in Pa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210 |
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I have the shifter handle for the left side ,use them with loader so u can work hyd. while shifting ,
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Kenny L. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NEIOWA Points: 1328 |
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I've a D15II that has the shuttle shift and is on the right side with the hyd control for the loader on the left side and the pto is 540rpm I love that tractor and is great for loader work. Kenny L.
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AC720Man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5131 |
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I had no idea they were made, would love to see and drive one. They sound to be pretty rare. Neat
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Eldon (WA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765 |
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170D in California bought $4000 at auction tonight. I would have bid it up if it wasn't 900 miles away.
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13681 |
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The 1959 D14 Industrial Loader/Backhoe I rebuilt has the shuttle shift on the left side. I LOVE it's functionality,,,!!! |
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 3010 |
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My I 600 has a shuttle and once had a cotton picker running gear based on a
D17 that had a shuttle. |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11965 |
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Some neighbor/friend/farmer somewhere in my childhood had one....but I don't remember what!
Almost thought by visual memory it would have been a D series shuttle, but maybe not. Edited by Tbone95 - 15 Sep 2017 at 6:25am |
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darrel in ND ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8688 |
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What's 900 miles to a road warrior like yourself....? Just call it a working vacation. Darrel |
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