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Steve g 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 10:26am |
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Taking input on pellet stove. detached garage barn 32 x 48. Pole barn construction spray foam walls with drywall over top. Liner panels on ceiling with 4 inches of insulation. Has anybody got similar garage shop barns with pellet stove heating and your opinion
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 3:22pm |
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Boy has a similar size shop / garage. Foam walls and roof... no ceiling.. 9 ft walls.. he uses a kerosene salamander for a couple hours to take the chill off when he works out there... so a small stove should do the same... foam helps a lot on heat retain.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 3:34pm |
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I figure you'll need a couple of fans in opposite diagonal corners to circulate the heat around and around......
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Steve g
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 4:33pm |
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Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking put a ceiling fan in. I'm all electric so natural gas is out of the question don't really want to deal with propane fuel oil if I don't have to. Been looking at pellet stove's some you can dial back to 1.4 pounds per hour.
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Steve g
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 4:35pm |
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And that spray foam that's the only way to go. It took about four years before I had my first spider in the barn it definitely makes it tight.
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 4:38pm |
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We have a corn stove in the farm shop. Shop is about 40x60 has flora heat in one half its set at 50 deg. It's an old farm shop with half a newer addition. Has 6" fiberglass with 1/4" foam vapor barrier under steel siding. 18" blown fiberglass in the cieling. The corn stove will keep it Luke warm but never heat it up. During the day we light the large fuel oil tank wood stove it heats the shop hot in about half an hour. You will go broke feeding a pellet stove. A bag of pellets dosent have very many BTUs in it. We go they about a third of a 55 gallon barrel of corn every day. We've been burning corn for several years it's not worth a lot and we just auger some from the bin when needed.
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 4:46pm |
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If you have enough cieling height get a propane Infared tube heater. I have a cieling box heater in my shop it keeps the shop warm all winter I use around 400 gal of propane each year. My shop is 30x36 has R 19 in the walls and R38 in the cieling. Our winters are colder and longer than yours. I kept the shop at 55 all winter and turn it up to 75 when I'm working in it.
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Darrell G (MN)
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Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 9:17pm |
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I also installed overhead infrared heat and keep it 50+ all winter long, shop is 40x40 14 ft high, use about 250 gals of propane a year. Initial cost is more but more efficient to use. I can open the door in the winter time to get something out or in and within minutes you would never know it was open. Based on my pre paid propane price that would cost me about $275.00 to heat my shop this winter.
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Boss Man
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Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 7:48am |
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Around here insurance companies wont allow a solid fuel burner in a detached building. Thinking you would need more insulation in the ceiling. Thats where most heat loss is.
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desertjoe
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Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 11:38pm |
Talking bout shop heatin,,I ran across an article bout a two level stacked drum wood heater that has 6 two inch tubes runnin inside the top drum with a fan blowing into the tubes from the back end. HMMmmmm? Anybody using one of them,,??
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shameless dude
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 2:15am |
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i made one of them years ago for an out building, wore it out. i know several that have made them outta the old fuel oil tanks too. they built a stand that stood away from the tank, had a 15/30 gallon barrel on it they put used oil in, ran a copper line down to the barrel with a pet cock in line, hung an old disk blade inside that the oil would drip on and ignite, them no pooling of oil inside the tank, would burn trash, wood, and old oil. that bugger was a heat factory!
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desertjoe
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:33am |
Yeah,,,Shameless,,they's all kinds of ways that a smart and enterprising young fellar can do to get by on,,,,,  I remember this dude that did automatic transmission overhauls would save the oil and had him a 55 gal barrel with the copper tubing you mention with a petcock and dribble the oil down to the burn barrel underneath,,,,he could adjust the smoke with his air intake just right. It would not smoke and you could not see the plume from the outside either. Kept his whole shop warm too,,,,
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desertjoe
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:37am |
I WAS thinkin bout makein me one but with the 30 gallon barrels doe my 20X30 place but then I'd have to go back to cuttin and haulin the dang wood,,,,CHIT,,,,!!! Always something,,,!! 
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 8:45am |
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Wood burner just takes way to much space you've got to keep a clear area around it and have a wood pile inside. Lots of ash to haul out. I'll stick with propane.
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DMiller
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:36pm |
Other issue with any flame cooker furnace, I paint in my shop with Automotive Enamels where Volatiles evaporate, makes a kind of loud BOOM when in presence of FIRE!!!
May eventually build a Outdoors wood burner behind that portion of shop to heat while I am working. Ash, Dust and Flame OUTSIDE, Heat inside.
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