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GSTROM99 
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 8:05am |
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 9:57am |
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never seen them before......... but looks REAL INTERESTING for a shop wall or ceiling !
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 10:56am |
gives SugarChris yet another option to think about !!!!
I like the less weight aspect....
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 11:01am |
Dang you guys! I have my steel for the ceiling already but this stuff looks very interesting too. Thanks for the link. We have a Menards about a hour away in Ohio. Regards, Chris
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 12:36pm |
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For an 8' sheet that's all you can get in the poly a dura panel is 37 cents Cheeper and made of steel. I had poly panels for trailer skirting they did not hold up well. A lawn mower Rock whent rite through it shattered a piece out.I put the dura panels up on both my walls and cieling use the white it reflects lights wonderfully. I've backed a truck hitch thru the wall at the farm the steel is easy to repair just loosen it up bang it back our and stick a piece of gorilla tape on the back and screw it back in place. I put the galvanized ones up in my barn but they cause uneven lighting.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 12:55pm |
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Dave, it says the poly is to be used INSIDE for ceiling and walls... I think being very LIGHT it might be a good ceiling cover.... and they list 8 , 12, 16, 20 ft lengths.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 1:10pm |
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If it's lighter weight wouldn't it sag between the joists!
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 19 Feb 2021 at 8:57pm |
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I'll keep my white steel (not so white after 35yrs) Never up there but if I missed my step, I'd still be up there not on the concrete floor
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GSTROM99
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:27am |
Yeah, I've now decided to go white steel too. If the PCV was WAY cheaper, I would be more likely to try it. The brochure even says change in pigment (color) is expected and (only) has a 5 year warranty from cracking, etc... I don't want to have to re-do this. Ever.
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modirt
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 3:13pm |
So I'm finishing out a 12' x 24' enclosed shop inside the barn. It was roughed in when I got here, so has ceiling joists 16" on center. They run the 12' width and have about a 2:1 pitch.
Walls and ceiling insulation is glass batts. Walls are covered with OSB. Was going to do OSB ceiling too, but now leaning towards doing this PVC or metal. PVC might not sweat.....and joists above are decked too, so not going to step on it.
Would a person run that the long way, the short way or doesn't matter?
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 3:31pm |
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I put reflected across my rafter bottom cords before putting the steel on blew in R 30 fiberglass above my shop stays warm in the winter and cool in the summer I have adequate attic ventilation so have zero condensation in a steel pole building.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 6:07pm |
re: Would a person run that the long way, the short way or doesn't matter?
normally you run the 'next layer' of material 90* from the 'last layer'... consider a wall(easier for me), studs (1st layer) are vertical, so drywall (next layer) goes on horizontal.If you then added panelling, it'd go vertical.....
clear as mud ??
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:32pm |
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modirt... normally you would run perpendicular to the joists... You have 12 ft joists on 16 inch centers and enough length for 24 ft.... You would buy two 12 ft pieces and put one on the end of the other to run 24 ft long... Your panels would be 36 inch, so you use 4 wide to fill the 12 ft room. ..... i did a little reading on the pvc panels and one thing is they act like siding on a house.. If it goes from zero to 100 degrees, the panels STRETCH and will bind on the screws... Some of the panels they recommend not squeezing the screws down REAL TIGHT... of course if you are inside and the temp only varies 20-30 degrees, probably not that important.
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 3:40pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
modirt... normally you would run perpendicular to the joists... You have 12 ft joists on 16 inch centers and enough length for 24 ft.... You would buy two 12 ft pieces and put one on the end of the other to run 24 ft long... Your panels would be 36 inch, so you use 4 wide to fill the 12 ft room. ..... i did a little reading on the pvc panels and one thing is they act like siding on a house.. If it goes from zero to 100 degrees, the panels STRETCH and will bind on the screws... Some of the panels they recommend not squeezing the screws down REAL TIGHT... of course if you are inside and the temp only varies 20-30 degrees, probably not that important. |
The 2- 12' panels doesn't allow for much overlap  !!
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 4:23pm |
dont need much... not raining inside the shop ! 
PVC panels are actually 12' 2" to allow for overlap.
Edited by steve(ill) - 21 Feb 2021 at 4:25pm
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 4:34pm |
I was thinking of the "fastening" aspect .
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 4:43pm |
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why not ? you got a 24 ft room and two 12' 2" panels ... 4 inch overlap !
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 5:02pm |
Your original post said NOTHING about 12'2'' panels  !! Yes, now that you've modified your statement, it makes better sense.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 5:08pm |
 
but MOST IMPORTANT.... Did I get all the WORDS spelled right ?
Edited by steve(ill) - 21 Feb 2021 at 5:08pm
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DMiller
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 6:19pm |
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In my workshop I bought steel panels and used a modified drywall jack to bring up to the trusses. Had to order Ceiling rated truss to do this as the truss company stated if used in a Barn configuration are not designed for Weight carry underneath. These Were NOT Barn truss in my Shop, had same load rating as House free span ceiling carry truss.
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