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KJCHRIS 
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 Topic: Shop breakins, theives.
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 at 8:15pm |
My farm area hasn't had breakins for several years. BUT over the last week or so 3 or 4 have been hit. Not going in houses, going into shops and taking air, electric, gas power tools. I borrowed several trail cameras and took them down and placed 4 around my buildings and mounted 2 up in the air inside the shop. 5 of 6 need ladder to get them. So now I'll be dropping in there odd times not just weekends like since got done w/harvest and fall field work. Also took note pad and wrote down make, model, serial numbers on alot of stuff.
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shameless dude
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Posted: 27 Dec 2021 at 10:50pm |
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that's how we are catching the scumbags around here using trail cameras. i had one mounted on my combine pointed at the fuel tanks. caught the little #^%@%*& filling his diesel truck that daddy bought him. i also have several in trees around outback...in case someone wants to harm my "machine"!
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 4:10am |
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Sheriff here has hands full with tweakers
Will write up complaints of break ins but no manpower to follow up on
Deputy said he did not tell
Me this but law is being taken back to 1880’s levels, thieves are likely to just vanish into thin air.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 6:30am |
 DMiller wrote:
Sheriff here has hands full with tweakers
Will write up complaints of break ins but no manpower to follow up on
Deputy said he did not tell
Me this but law is being taken back to 1880’s levels, thieves are likely to just vanish into thin air. |
Not far from here a guy caught a guy stealing diesel. They raised his truck way up with a fork lift. The guy jumped out. They beat him severely with axe handles. Thief spent weeks in hospital the diesel owner and his son spent weeks in Jail. Betting the thief learned a little.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 6:35am |
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A guy I know well had tools and a Nissan truck stolen from his farm.
His brother found the truck on a known thief’s property. They got pics of truck and plates. Cops still wouldn’t do anything. They got state police involved. Got the truck back but no tools. The thief is in prison and they found several stolen vehicles on the property.
Local sheriff is not interested in fighting crime. He’s gone soon.
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Morpar55
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 7:42am |
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I guess I'm pretty lucky. I haven't had any issues with this kind of crap over the 30 years we have lived where we do, and now I have the town marshal (and former county sheriff) living "next door". I am guessing there won't be any issues for a while either, but I do feel for the people who have had problems. Years ago there was a guy in a neighboring town whose house kept getting broken into. He always reported and nothing was ever down, even with lots of evidence. He booby-trapped the front door with a shotgun and blasted a known thief. Guess who ended up in jail? To be fair, the thief ended up at the morgue.
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 8:08am |
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MO has Castle Doctrine laws, where a Thief that can be determined as "Threatening" can be put down, a Hammer or large chuck of whatever at that thieves' hands or a weapon found on the person produces said Threatening Aspect. No jail maybe some court time, Local Attorney said would take this kind of case Pro Bono as well.
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Ray54
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 1:21pm |
If you have wifi signal at the shop you can go one step farther and get notified when someone is on camera. Commonly called doorbell cameras.
With Caly being so homeless friendly we have way to many. Our church and preschool is a 1/4 mile from the dry river bed which is homeless friendly. As enough willows and cotton woods hide them and there camps. My daughter as director of the preschool gets notified on her phone. She can then watch what they are up to and talk to them through the camera. Some very interesting looks on some when "God is talking to them". Some of course having it figured out and look right at the camera.
At least "God" is giving baths to the homeless as the river has a bit of water running across the sand with the rain we have gotten. Now that the river is "primed" if we get a gully washer we will make national news as the homeless are fished out by helicopter.
Sad state of affairs when the crock is more protected than the victim.
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KJCHRIS
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 4:06pm |
Ray, I've barely got cell service at farm, stand in just the right spot/do not move or call gets dropped. No house yet / no phone. The newer cameras do download to my phone if I'm close so don't have to climb ladder to get pics. 2 of break-ins are kind of suspicious as both had just bought a bunch of new battery and air tools in last few months. (1 is my renters son , 1 is neighbor to my renter they live about 3 mile apart). I've put bolts in track of overhead door so it can't raise and bolt on inside of sliding door, now only access is the walkin door or cut a hole. I parked my old farmtruck really close in front of door, you'd have to sit on hood to work on the door. There are no yard lights on and buildings are in middle of 150 acres.
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 8:52pm |
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Sometimes just a single sign saying "Smile your on candid camera or your in range", helps. Since it is off the road some then maybe a good strong gate at the road might be an option also.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 2:36pm |
If you are running cameras make sure you post it because some police wouldn't allow it it it's not posted that you have cameras. I think it's crazy but I guess it's the law.
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Dave in PA
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 3:52pm |
tadams(OH) wrote:
If you are running cameras make sure you post it because some police wouldn't allow it it it's not posted that you have cameras. I think it's crazy but I guess it's the law. |
For sure, I have 2 houses, one my son lives in, my house and a camp. All have signs posted, for the reason you stated. Their job might be, the thief, where the cameras are, and how many! LOL I will give a hint here, more than 3 average at each place.
Edited by Dave in PA - 29 Dec 2021 at 3:55pm
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 4:35pm |
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Put an old camera up high and put some surveyor by it so everyone can see it. They will know there are cameras and maybe go away.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 5:27pm |
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Michigan has a self defense law. If they are coming toward you and it appears they are going to be nasty. You have the right to shoot or use what ever method needed. I've read several reports on the law. One I read, they took the owner guy to the office and talked to him for a while and then released him. I think it said they took the other person to the morgue.
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DougG
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 5:40pm |
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Yeah theives are a bad deal - but to beat with axe handles- thats pretty barbaric and dumb- fake cameras and stuff moved around every now and then usually stops this , Id luv to catch them in my shop, no beatings but they would sure wish they werent there !
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 6:18pm |
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The 3-S method would be the best way to handle them.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 7:50pm |
Someone tried to steal my '67 stang convertable one night... ..always wondered... how many fingetips he lost 'finding' the ultra sharp metal near the ignition switch harness.
I have ZERO tolerance for thieves..one reason I don't visit my nations capitol.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 7:58pm |
Was reading this post earlier then happened to see this on YouTube…young man’s place consistently being “thieved”. His cameras, along with the Sheriff, got the guy.
Edited by Mosin9130 - 29 Dec 2021 at 8:00pm
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 8:56pm |
Mosin9130 wrote:
Was reading this post earlier then happened to see this on YouTube…young man’s place consistently being “thieved”. His cameras, along with the Sheriff, got the guy.
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What was funny was the thief messed up big time when he made his wife cry. Any charges that may come are insignificant in comparison. Hope he likes cold cereal and a cold shoulder for the foreseeable future.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 9:42pm |
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You've got to wonder about that guy, has a nice place, nearly new pickup, etc. and then goes and hauls away a neighbors stuff, and paints over two of the cameras, after the fact? Got to wonder if he is mentally Ill, doesn't look like the average Meth head.
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KJCHRIS
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Posted: 30 Dec 2021 at 4:27pm |
The sheriff's deputy helped 1 of the victims install cameras at another building, they'd been in it and had thing piled outside. I'll go finish install of a permanent camera system this weekend, Downloads phone or Laptop, will be up high and out of reach. Wired to switch so can turn off when there and on when leaving, it has 3 cameras in shop and 1 in storage area. Plan to add 1 or 2 to it with them outside, it can run up to 8. Have a length of 3/8" chain w/reflectors @ 36" to 42" goes between 2 10' posts (15 to 18" old power pole) about 20' inside my fence, both field gates are chained w/padlocks. But gates n locks only keep your friends out
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 1:39pm |
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Pretty sad when cannot trust Close by neighbors. Yeah guy was apologetic but STILL a thief, wonder whose stuff he pilfered next.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 6:48pm |
A sure fire way to catch gas thieves: Whizz in a 5-gallon can, till its about full. Add some gas on top of that, put it outside, in the open. When can is stolen, look around the neighborhood, for the vehicle with the hood up! 
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 11:13pm |
No activity over the weekend at my place or in the area. Checked pictures on the outside cameras, can see me pull up at doors and read license plate on my pickup on 1 and on other good side view of pickup and my renters ATV, and a few deer strolling thru on both. Inside cameras yeah it's me walking out and in the door. So is up and running. i'M hoping they get caught somewhere else, but we're ready.
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