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FREEDGUY 
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Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 6:21pm |
Where are the "upper" marker lights supposed to be located on a P/U? I thought it was 5 lights on the leading edge of the cab, but Ford has 3 mounted on the upper grill of their "odd looking" Raptor that I've been seeing more and more of recently  .
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DMiller
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Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 6:49pm |
Should be highest facing edge of the factory built cab, Added bodies as sleepers and campers have their own. Raptor Lamps NOT for Marker just architectural enhancements.
Edited by DMiller - 16 Oct 2020 at 6:51pm
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Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 7:13pm |
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Not sure if cab marker lights are mandatory on pick ups?
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 7:25pm |
Marker lights are required on vehicles 90" or wider. Those Frog trucks can do what ever they like. Oooooh Shiny  The factories have gone to adding glitz and gimmicks to run the price up. 50 years ago you could get a fully outfitted 3/4 to that could actually last a few years and WORK for about $4,000 or less. Nowadays these things are full of plastic and computer controlled crap that is bound to break down before you can pay them off.
Edited by PaulB - 18 Oct 2020 at 4:32pm
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 5:44pm |
That's the problem, Ford put the yellow lights on the grill, why would they do that ?? I thought I was meeting a "tri-cycle" the other morning in the dark 
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 5:49pm |
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Was it a factory option, or something the owner did as a DIY?
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 5:58pm |
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I've seen several Raptors (becoming more and more of them) with the same "marker lights" on the top of the grill.
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 6:06pm |
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They are not "Marker Lamps" They are Ford Dress out accessories. Marker lamps go ON THE CAB.
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 6:10pm |
Why are they YELLOW??? To me that's a MARKER LIGHT ??!!
If they aren't "marker" lights, they should be PINK !!!!
Edited by FREEDGUY - 17 Oct 2020 at 6:12pm
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 6:56pm |
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Most aftermarket grills for trucks and now putting 3-4 little yellow LED lights on the top edge below the hood.... Like DAVE said, its window dressing.. No value at all.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 7:02pm |
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 7:06pm |
It's not the "value" issue, it's legality of where/how many of them(lights) there are on this Jeep/Hummer abomination of a "truck". I can't say for sure if they were A/M grills or not though
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 7:08pm |
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Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 7:20pm |
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There are a zillion of them on e-bay for sale for $200. You can get them for ANY manufacturer of Truck... Lots of guy buy them to replace the factory CHROME grill to make a BLACK OUT..... for looks .... like the RAPTOR.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:29am |
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pink? someone say pink???
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 6:11am |
any colour as long as they're not flashing red/blue.......... ..though they do look silly,serve NO purpose, cept send money to China.
that being said, DRL ( Daytime running Lights) , are NOT legally required up here in Canada..somehting that was PROVEN to have saved lives...sigh...
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 6:12am |
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Yes they did,, I just figured someone's slip was showing.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 6:31am |
Nothing illegal of Amber Accessory lamps to front or Reds to Rear, Nobody cares as stated Unless Flash as Emergency Vehicle Lamps. Can add a Hundred lamps to a machine and DOT does NOT G.A.S. unless are not working.
Most of these lamps are NOT Required and yet if NOT Working can be fined for as Inoperable lighting.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 6:35am |
No reason but bragging rights for this
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:38pm |
DMiller, I can appreciate ALL of the lights and "bling" on a big rig  , but even in your pics, there's not ONE amber light on the middle of the grill ?? They are all "high and wide" other than the under front bumper lights  .
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:55pm |
See them In grills, around grills across grills. They mean NOTHING, just Bling. What do you not get of that, is Just a Accessory Lamp.
ONLY required are IF NEEDED by Truck Category, two front and two rear Corner Markers and Five Cab &/or Box Markers, TWO Tail Lamps TWO Stop/TS Lamps Two Front TS Lamps and by year a Alternate THIRD Or Upper BRAKE Lamp. PERIOD, GRILL Lamps are BS Bling.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:58pm |
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I have seen the light show setup as a CROSS or FACE in the center of the grill also.. Its all SHOW... SO WHAT ?
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 4:01pm |
Or like this:
Means NADA
Edited by DMiller - 18 Oct 2020 at 4:02pm
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 4:04pm |
THIS is the CFR(Code of Federal Regulations) for TRUCK Lighting, Raptors are LARGE Toys and oversize Cars.
Edited by DMiller - 18 Oct 2020 at 4:06pm
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 4:23pm |
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I had mine pretty well lite up,nothing like that but enough to where I had myself convinced it would give the OTHER 75% something to see and guide them when they tried backing in next to me.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 4:28pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
I have seen the light show setup as a CROSS or FACE in the center of the grill also.. Its all SHOW... SO WHAT ? |
Your "CROSS" or "FACE" is pretty much a solid row of lights, the 3 "individual" lights on the raptor are deceiving IMO is all .
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 4:39pm |
jaybmiller wrote:
any colour as long as they're not flashing red/blue.......... |
in many sates anything other than clear or amber facing forward and red or amber facing rear (except for clear lights when in reverse gear) is ILLEGAL!!! It's right there in the vehicle law book published by the states MVA. Although for Barney Fife to do anything about is is another problem
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
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