Roto baler problem

Any experts out there on the roto baler. We used one on the farm when I was a kid but dad always kept it running.  All I got to do was pickup all those little  round bales. Bought a white top a few years ago just to show kids what it was like. Looked to be in good shape. Finally got it in field last summer and could not get to bale.  Bale would start rolling but then kick out almost as soon as it started.  I worked all  afternoon trying to get it to bale with only one bale by dark. Haven't looked at it since but would still like to get it working.  I would appreciate any  information anyone has to help me get this baler going.  

The blue arrow is pointing at the latch. The end pointing to the front of the baler moves up and down. To be latched it needs to be down as far as it can go.

The red arrow points at the end of the trip arms. If you can pull it back and separate the trip arms any amount, then the latch is not properly latched.

X2 on the latches and twine tension.    Also there are springs behind the plungers near the latches that can be broken. You have to remove the castle nut and the plunger to look at them.  

Thanks guys for all the information.  Seems like I have inspected most of the items you have brought up but I will for sure go back and go through them all.  I guess thinking about the situation I may have not described problem correctly. The bale does not build after it starts.  Many times the chamber would pop open and not eject the bale. Hay would just feed through and out the back. After pulling the chamber open to remove small bale, I would push back so it was locked and then try again. Same thing would happen. Chamber would just pop open again.  One thing I did not mention is that many of the springs were broke and I did have to replace them.  I did not use factory springs but just matched as good as possible.  I wonder if that could be some of my problems.  Also how tight are the belts supposed to be.   Thanks again for any info. 

Try running across the ends of a few windrows, to start bales.  Hay goes in parallel to the bale chamber, and starts to roll easier.  Also remember that these balers like dry hay, better than wet, and like a full, double windrow, raked side by side, just barely touching each other...

Where are you located? I been running them for 50+ years. I am in southern Iowa. If you are close I could come look at it.

Looked at the baler again. According to the picture posted the green arrow shows a spring hooked to the rod and pulling back to the left. My baler has a spring hooked to that same rod on a cotter key and pulls to to right. Looks like a factory spring and factory mounting. Also have a triangle that pivots behind that rod and it has a hole in it like a spring would go into it.  Also have a rod to the left up behind the gears with a hole in it like a spring should go into it. In the picture is the spring shown hooked to this rod ? Should there be a spring going from the rod to the triangle however that does not look correct to me. Looks like the triangle should do something .  

Found a white top to look at.  I am missing the spring which pulls to the left. It is hookd to the triangle I talked about and then to the rod I talked about. Could very well be the cause of all my problems. Sure wish I could find OEM springs. Guess I will just try to match up a spring. 

Agrimson tool Co. has the springs listed. Not sure if they still sell them or not. 

Edited by NE GA Allis - 26 May 2020 at 5:39pm