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steve(ill) 
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 Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 1:51pm |
If I understand correctly, these are hub pilot rims........not sure if this particular two nut system is common......so challenge when looking for a replacement is to find modern rims to fit these studs..... OOOPS... after reading Steve and Dave posts, I see that the WHEEL STUD NUTS are double and you are not talking about the axle half shaft bolts !!
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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modirt
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Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 2:35pm |
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Modirt, don't know if you have every had a 1 ton axle ( or above) apart before... |
Never have........I'm one of those guys whose only experience at this level is kicking the tires and lighting the fires! 
BTW, big difference between ignorant and stupid. Or put another way, brain surgery isn't hard if you know how........but if you don't know how.......you don't have much business trying it. When it comes to stuff like this I've always deferred to guys who know how. This time, I've having to do it myself. Kinda fun.....but there is a learning curve.
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DMiller
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Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 3:44pm |
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Called full floating rear end, do not have to remove everything wheel related to remove a axle shaft(Large flange looking at you) to remove the third member if need be, will likely have TWO seals on this axle, the Old school method was a Axle Flange Gasket with a Tube end seal built in it then the retainer Nut(s) for the outer bearing, removing tires and wheels does make it easier with the axle on a support stand. Back the brake shoes adjusters full OFF, remove the bearing nuts(will be lock tabbed), outer bearing then drag the hub assembly off. Is a axle seal to remove to get the inner bearing out of the hub, should have a P/N on it to match locally. The tube seal flange gasket you can discard and ignore from now on, bearings will become Oil Bath from here out. Have not seen those old gasket seal assemblies for at least thirty years, will be a p/n on them, can always try to replace if feel the need but doubt still available.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 3:53pm |
This is the slightly larger GMC I put seals in and brakes on disassembled. 
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Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 6:11pm |
DMiller wrote:
Is a ton and half or two ton axle. IF the removal of the outer nut backs off the inner then take the rest outers off, there is a tool to hold the outer nut and drive the inner thru the outer. Typical Budd Wheel nuts Righty Tighty Lefty Tighty on these, Left Side should be marked L on the head of the inner nut. 8.75 is a real common pattern six lug. |
Now that I see the pics, they do look like budd wheels. My Isuzu NPR has 'em on it. One might be able to take 16" Budd wheels, like on the NPR, and cut the centers out of them, then center the cutouts onto a set of 20" donor wheels (the hard part, LOL), and weld the new bolt pattern over the donor wheels. Of course you have to cut out the old bolt pattern, on the donor wheels or drill or burn out with a torch. Depends on how much time and tooling you have versus money to buy the correct wheel.
Military may be a source:
You might be able to find 6 bolt 8.75" reinforcing rings, somewhere, too, try calling M.E. Miller tire, they might be able to get you a line on them. Also, Gensco tire, that sells aircraft tires, and military tires, may be able to help, too... 
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modirt
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Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 6:38am |
Think I found my rims. They are 22.5# Budd style tubeless, with same 6 hole pattern and hole size. They were on some type of Ford truck. $75 each or $300 for a set of 4.
Unfortunately, tires on them are worse than what I already have, so need to hunt down tires to fit. That may be to my benefit.......as I'll probably need to go as narrow as I can to get them to fit.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 10:48pm |
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Yep you got it figured out. If you can go tubeless tires, cheaper south Korean made tire should work good for you.
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modirt
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 10:55am |
Rather than to hijack recent post about Dodge truck rims, went back and found this one.
Have an additional question.
On the rims in question, I did buy them, cleaned them up, etc.
Tire size listed on them is 22.5/6.00
Also says max tire size is 9 / 22.5 Again, these are intended to replace 7.5/20 on Firestone RH5 (widow maker) rims.
Problem being, nobody seems to be able to find anything smaller than 10/22.5 and those only in a highway tread.
Have been told they will work......will have a bulging tread in middle, but on the low speed farm use hay monster, won't be a problem.
Thoughts?
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 12:03pm |
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Becomes a Run what can buy issue.
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modirt
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:26pm |
The alternative I keep running in my mind is to find a set of one piece 8.25 x 20 rims....as I'm told those tires are common....but would probably be a tube type.
As there were a lot of old trucks running 7.5 x 20 and 8.25 x 20, this does not seem like it should be this hard to resolve.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:36pm |
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either way................ as a side note, i have mounted many tires on a rim that was 1 inch off in width....... not a problem.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 3:37pm |
Another alternate, find 19.5s in a six lug budd pattern.
Edited by DMiller - 18 Oct 2020 at 3:39pm
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Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 11:21pm |
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That's a common 6 bolt bud rim. There are many 9x22.5 tires still made. Goodyear G661HSA, Double coin, Michelin XZA, Iron Man Steer, Laclede camlock, etc. Any mom and pop tire shop should be able to get them for you. Your old tires might have some trade in value.
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Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 12:47pm |
My 1954 Ford F500 uses 8.25x20
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Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 8:34pm |
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Those are standard wheels on 60’s through mid 70’s D500 trucks.They are very common around here. Do you get to PA any? Might be able to round some 8.25 x 20’s up for you.
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Michael V (NM)
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Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 11:12pm |
modirt wrote:
Think I found my rims. They are 22.5# Budd style tubeless, with same 6 hole pattern and hole size. They were on some type of Ford truck. $75 each or $300 for a set of 4.
Unfortunately, tires on them are worse than what I already have, so need to hunt down tires to fit. That may be to my benefit.......as I'll probably need to go as narrow as I can to get them to fit.
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I need 6 of these 22.5's for a 1960 f-600,, a store in Amarillo quoted me $400 ea....like to replace the 8.25 widow makers that are on it now....although the tires that are on it now are decent and will last a long time,, just don't want to have a flat,,cause I don't think anyone around here will fix them...
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Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 2:55am |
the place i bought my dually from has another Dodge 3500 dually that has semi tires on it, i didn't look to close at the rims, the tires are i think...255Rx22.5 go look on the web site: www.brettspauldingsales.net
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Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 2:58am |
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it's the maroon 4-dr dually, appears to have 10 bolt rims.
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