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    Posted: 07 Apr 2020 at 8:26pm
I think I've finally found something that will kill/repell rats! been pouring febreeze smelling Clorox down their holes, been finding dead rats all over.
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Do you think that would work on pocket gophers as well? I have been using Juicy Fruit gum and that seems to work, but it takes a while.
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So now we know who is buying so much Clorox bleach. Still no bleach, TP, milk or eggs on shelf.
I found a partial bag of rootwork killer in shed behind planter. I put it down their holes. Cleared them out for a couple years.
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Dang plain old DeCon works for me. I dump a whole box of it down the rat holes, then in about 3 months I will move the water tank sitting next to the barn and get at least 1/2 of it back. They seem to like to stay under the tank all winter. There is a tank heater in it.
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I can't take the chance of them kicking the decon back out, my dogs would prolly eat it and then there would be H*LL to pay! not alone heartbreak. that's what happened to a friend of mines dog on their place.
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If you want to clear out pests in holes in the ground, run some anhydrous down the holes. Anything in there will want out of there and right now if it isn't asphyxiated first.
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The first year we bought this place, we were over-run with rats.
I bought a bag of hydrated lime at the feed store; it is about the size of a fifty-pound sack of horse feed, but weighs about 120-pounds.
WEAR A MASK; that stuff is finer than baby powder.
Pour it in any hole where a rat might go.
The idea is that the rats and mice will sniff it to try to figure out what has blocked their path; it is so fine that, once in the nose, it goes to the lungs, and suffocates them.

I had tried everything else, spent a small fortune on various poisons; within a week of putting out the lime, we haven't seen a rat since.

I have heard old people call it "slack lime"; but, I am pretty sure it says "Hydrated Lime" on the bag.
This was over twenty years ago and I probably still have 2/3 of the bag.

The reason they keep it at the feed mill is that you can cover a dead animal with it, even something as big as a horse, and the lime will absorb any odor while dissolving the carcass into oblivion.
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thanks Buckskin...i'll check it out!
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Thought I heard a request...

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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Thought I heard a request...


I am old enough to very well remember being part of genuine old-time rat killings.
The first place we lived was right across the road from my grand-father's big feed mill business.
Four huge wooden corn-cribs meant rat city USA.
Behind our filling station was a house trailer village; we lived in one of them.
The rats had a network of tunnels from the corn-cribs to underneath every one of the house trailers.
Several times a year, the whole community would turn out armed with clubs; we would put a hose on the exhaust of some old worn-out car and poke it down a hole.
With the throttle tied back so the engine wouldn't die, it was one guys job to slowly pour used oil down the throat of the carburetor, carefully monitoring whether the engine was going to take it or not and adjusting the amount of used oil accordingly.
After a bit, black smoke would be rolling out of a thousand holes and out from under every house trailer; and, the amount of rats that would come pouring out was like something in a horror movie.
People would club rats until they were exhausted.
They would dump the dead rats in a sink-hole, throw in a bunch of old inner-tubes, roll in some old junk tires, douse a few gallons of coal-oil on the works, and set the whole mess afire.
I can right now smell those burning rat carcasses just from remembering it.
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We usedta have'em around here, too.  My grandfather hadda clever guy workin for him, we beat 'em outa the corn pile, and had it arranged so they were corralled through a rat sized hole, with a old push type lawnmower, idling at the outer end, efficient, but messy!Hug
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I had some pack rats colonizing and a possible skunk in an enclosed part of my shed.
Cut a hole in the wall and piped in some gutter down spouts
and attached it to my WD exhaust and ran it half throttle
for about 45 minutes then pulled it to full choke every so often.

I cold hear them thumping around inside. Found several dead rats and no skunk.
Melted the paint off a foot of the gutter pipe.
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went to the feed store today, asked about the hydrated lime, the owner said he has only order that in once in the 30 sum years he's had the store. he asked why I wanted it and told him. he looked at me funny and said no kidd'in? he says he might order a bag now and he'd share with me. feed stores always have trouble with rats and mice! the old lady....oooops...I mean the loving wife came in this afternoon and told me to look out to the chicken pen...there were 3 guinas's pecking the chit outta a big ole rat! they kilt it! I told them there's more to go! I the mean time, think i'll puts another bucket of water out there since I don't think it's gonna freeze much anymore.
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

went to the feed store today, asked about the hydrated lime, the owner said he has only order that in once in the 30 sum years he's had the store. he asked why I wanted it and told him. he looked at me funny and said no kidd'in? he says he might order a bag now and he'd share with me. feed stores always have trouble with rats and mice!


After reading this, I thought I might oughta take a look at the bag, just to make sure you didn't poison the neighborhood on my recommendation.

The bag says "Chemical   Hydrated Lime   (Rotary Kiln)   for Water Softening and Chemical Use"

The brand-name and weight is printed on the part of the bag that is rolled down and I was wearing my clean pajamas and didn't want twenty years of wood-shop dust and spider webs all over me, so I did not molest the bag.

Like I already said, WEAR A MASK; this stuff is about as fine as fine gets.
I may be wrong about this, but I am fairly certain that this is the same stuff that granny used to mix with water to make white-wash paint.

Another thought, find out if they make different fineness grades of the stuff; it will defeat the purpose if the bag you get has the consistency of coarse-ground corn-meal.

My grandfather built our local feed-mill while my father was off in Korea getting our a-double-s whipped, so it has been in business a long time.
He sold it when I was a wee lad, so it is not in the family anymore.
I never gave a thought as to availability; I just asked for a bag and they had a couple pallets of the stuff and it wasn't buried in dust like anything that is around there more than a couple weeks is.
As best I remember, it was not expensive at all either, like less than ten bucks; if it had of been more, I would most likely not have been able to afford it.

I would wear some throw-away gloves and not my Sunday-go-to-meetin' best; whatever that stuff gets on, it stays on.

I am gonna Duck-Duck-Go about the white-wash and see if that is what it is made with.


>>> On EDIT:  Forgot to add:  The bag also says "High Calcium" : I really don't know how Calcium Hydroxide could be any more Calcium and still be lime, but that is what the bag says.
On another thought, if the stuff is used for water softening, high calcium content is what you are trying to get rid off; how on earth is using pure Calcium Hydroxide going to lessen a Calcium problem ?


>>>2nd Edit:  Plain old lime, as in agricultural lime or limestone rock, or TUMS, is Calcium Carbonate; Hydrated Lime, which is Calcium Carbonate that has been burned in a kiln, is Calcium Hydroxide


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I was right about the Hydrated Lime and white wash; read this:

https://www.theprairiehomestead.com/2014/07/whitewash-recipe-barn-coop.html
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Hydrated lime is the most active form of lime, it is used in cement, chemical industry, masonry, food industry (pickling), agriculture, and various other uses.  It is available here, in 80 lb bags, from southern states farm co-op stores...

We used it for sour (acid) soils, it is the fastest acting lime available.  Unlike dolomite, it has little magnesium, and si pure white color.  Also have to use a drop spreader to spread it.Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

  Also have to use a drop spreader to spread it.Thumbs Up


Yes, the E-Z-Flo would be advisable; I can just envision the white tornado that would be around a big lime truck with a pair of those big whirly-birds.
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According to Penn State U. the dolomite will give you the same results as hydrated line in the end but will take about 6 mo. to start to get results from the dolomite lime and it will be much cheaper.
I always whitewashed my dairy barn with hydrated lime and water once a year when I had cows. A good insect and germ control. 


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Hydrated Lime is Kiln Dried lime that is ground extremely fine and you can find it anywhere masonary supplies are sold - used to add to cement to make mortar or stucco mix as well as smome plasters . 
No another use is for storing fresh farm eggs (not store bought washed eggs) as they can be stored in water and lime mix for up to a year and still be fresh to use without refrigeration at lower room temp .
 This lime is not the same as ag-lime or garden lime but is processed through a kiln .

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when I worked construction, I was in charge of making the concrete for block laying and sometimes had to mix some lime in it for other uses...I remember how fine that stuff was, made sure I was up wind when pouring it in the mixer! thanks ya'll for the info, I guess I can get it at menards or the other box box DIY stores.
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Always used a white lime years ago on the milking parlor floor where the cows walked and stood. And in the cow stables that didn't have concrete Dad once a year put a coarser lime in, leveling and packing with a WD 45. What got scooped out when we hauled manure the next year added some lime to the pasture before plowing.
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

...I remember how fine that stuff was, made sure I was up wind when pouring it in the mixer! 


At least you had a mixer; when I had the thankless job of being the mud man, all I had was a goose-neck hoe and a wheel-barrow that just looked for an excuse to tip over.

All of the guys that worked at our local Ready-Mix plant, and I knew all of them well, died before they were fifty from their lungs having so much fine dust in them.

It is not funny that those guys died at such a young age; but, what is funny is that the local dry-cleaning business was right beside the driveway that went into the Ready-Mix plant; every house and car in the neighborhood stayed completely coated with the fine dust; and, here is this dry-cleaners as close to the dust-storm as one could get without being under the mixers.
I guess it was good for his business, as he stayed covered up ----- in both dust and business.
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