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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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I honestly can’t say I’ve ever seen a straight sided 5 gallon bucket.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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Seems like drywall topping mud buckets are pretty "straight sided" ?
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Not really the ones I’ve seen
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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A lot of old steel buckets are straight... tar / roofing , etc........... as far as i know, ALL plastic buckets are taper... probably easier to make and stack empty.
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GARY(OH/IN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 May 2010 Location: Findlay,Ohio Points: 917 |
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Those plastic buckets may stack easier but you have to have an air compressor to get them apart.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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LMAO !!!! They're even harder to get apart if rain water got down between them
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Kansas99 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 2015 Location: W Kansas Points: 4867 |
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Well I absolutely have never seen a straight sided 5 gal bucket, every one I ever looked at was round.
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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Most of the STEEL ones are straight.. Would be harder to make a TAPERED wall bucket.. Roofing tar / paint/ etc.
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18923 |
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You guys are missing the point I think. ONE of those gauges is marked WRONG. Even if you take into account the funnel shape, IF that one is marked correctly, it will READ correctly. It IS all about volume as Tracy says.
Volume Calculator - Calculator.netwww.calculator.net › math This free volume calculator can compute the volumes of common shapes, including that of a sphere, cone, cube, cylinder, capsule, cap, conical frustum, ellipsoid ... As I said,,,,,,,,IF the markings on the reciever is correct, no matter the shape |
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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No, we didnt miss the point... The point was you can NOT take 6 oz of water and pour in both gauges and have them BOTH read the same value.... VOLUME has nothing to do with it.... That was the example of 1 inch of water in a coffee cup compared to 1 inch of water in a 5 gallon bucket... BOTH 1 inch.. NOT the same volume.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Who knew rain gauges were indeed such a dilemma?!
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Um.....so how do they nest for storage if they're straight? And....don't really think it would be that much harder to make. |
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24397 |
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they don't 'nest', same as beer cans, bean cans,pop cans, etc. all have straight sides... Now what I want to know is WHY aren't ALL cans of food 'stackable' in a pantry ? Some cans have slightly rounded bottomes ,so you CAN stack the cans...while others are 'flat' bottomed and don't stack well..... i know, one of life's mysteries.....
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Read the ad again. Nice and slow this time! ![]() ![]() Edited by Tbone95 - 09 Jun 2020 at 12:13pm |
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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Tbone, i think you missread Jay... The steel cans have straight sides, but a small BELL at the top.. With the lid on, the 2nd can will set INTO the lid of the first.. Its only 12/ inch, but keeps one from sliding off when stacked.. A lot of soup cans or beer cans are also made that way.
i guess it depends on what your definition of IS is ! ![]() Edited by steve(ill) - 09 Jun 2020 at 3:11pm |
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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From the add and the picture, it looks like the bottom 1 1/2-2 " of the bucket will "nest" in the upper/wide portion of the pretty-much straight sided looking steel pails
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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I get it, they aren't "as tapered" as a plastic bucket. But also think they wouldn't make a very good cylinder for calculating when it comes to trying to be very accurate.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Steve, the add you posted says this EXACTLY: "Empty pails nest for storage" |
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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YEP........... whats your definition of IS...
as Freedguy and Jay said, the plastic buckets will NEST inside each other maybe 8- 10 inches... The steel buckets have STRAIGHT WALLS and set in the LIP maybe 1 inch ... with the lid on, then just set inside the 1/2 inch tall lip.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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So you put lids on empty buckets? Wow, well there it IS then!
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Just having fun here.....because....well, the world sucks! But honestly, I would call that stacking, not nesting.
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4683 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Today's big farm problem what rain gauge to believe,which oil to put in my antique tractor. Up town in the big city today, ![]() When it really gets crazy
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24397 |
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dang it's HOT here... so ... to me 'nesting' means something goes into another something, pretty dang far, say 90+% inside... 'stacking' means something will go on top of anotehr something and not generally far over as for rain guages... yeesh, just go buy 3 same brand/same units and PRAY they ALL read the same......
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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to me 'nesting' means something goes into another something, pretty dang far, say 90+% inside.. EXACTLY! So....did you reread the ad Steve posted? ![]() ![]() Edited by Tbone95 - 11 Jun 2020 at 7:17am |
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structures ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Location: Beggs, OK Points: 335 |
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Did the rain gauge ever get solved? If the new one is just a straight cylinder you should be able to just measure from the bottom with a tape measure and see if the increments were printed off by 1/2". I would bet the new one is off.
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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the add got it WRONG... There definition of NESTING is the bucket sets 1 inch into the bucket below it... I have bought dozens of steel buckets... They do no NEST.... they STACK as jay said... Look at soup cans, beer cans, etc... as jay said, they STACK.. Plastic tapered buckets NESTS. ............ they are using the wrong word.
Go to the Farm STore or Hardware Store and tell them you want to see the 5 gal buckets of ROOFING TAR or BARN PAINT ........... they will be Stacked. Edited by steve(ill) - 11 Jun 2020 at 8:18am |
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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Sssshhhhhh…...relax Steve. Maybe switch to decaf?
Just jerkin' the proverbial chain of a very frustrating thread....You know...volume is volume, nesting is nesting, is is is. ![]() |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11995 |
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What I wanna know, is how it is ALWAYS 1/2 inch off? ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe the last 1/2 inch doesn't get emptied out? ![]() |
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4683 |
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Tbone now you know what I meant about a oil
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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The problem with the rain gauges is they are all BUILT IN CHINA ... They build them in centimeters, and then convert to inches.. Some say there are 2 cm per inch, some say 2.54 cm per inch. !!!
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