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FREEDGUY 
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Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 5:15pm |
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This evening I was driving eastbound about 9 miles east of a local regional airport and saw an inbound plane on approach from the east looking directly into the "lowish" sun this time of the year. My ? is, do the windshields on Leer jets and larger have an "auto-darkening" screen similar to a welding helmet, or do you guys rely on a good pair of sunglasses when landing/taking off ? Thanks
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 5:27pm |
I'm betting, sun glasses and sun shades , that 's what the lil planes I flew had... ..and 'autodarkening' stuff would have to have a zillion miles of 'red tape' around it. Say it autodarkened at night and wouldn't undarken !!!!!
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Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 5:43pm |
Thanks Jay, what were the 'lil planes that you flew ? We had a neighbor that was a farmer/auctioneer that had his own Cesna that he landed/stored at his own farm and I was given a 20 minute ride over the neighborhood after baling straw all day at his farm when I was 8, BEST DAY OF MY LIFE up until then  !!
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Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 7:15pm |
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Probably military grade sun shades, or maybe even drop down visors, would be my guess. Planes always take off, and land ‘into the wind’.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 8:22pm |
Fortunately, when you're in an approach, your sightline is to the ground, which is BELOW the horizon... the opposite of when you're taking off. Our jets do have visors if our pilots choose to, but neither of the guys seem to use them much for landings. Keep it on the proper approach, maintain the airspeed, and follow the checkoff list, make sure you have a clean runway, there's actually very little time when you're actually looking at any angle high enough to challenge the horizon...
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Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 7:09am |
got my pilots at 17(sigh FIVE decades ago...thanks...), flew Cherokee140s, out of Hamilton,until city shurdown the flight school that's been there since WWIIish.... while training in London, got stuck in a tstorm...instructor let me stay 'pilot-in-command', 'fun' ride, no wipers on small planes !
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Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 11:19am |
 DaveKamp wrote:
Fortunately, when you're in an approach, your sightline is to the ground, which is BELOW the horizon... the opposite of when you're taking off. Our jets do have visors if our pilots choose to, but neither of the guys seem to use them much for landings. Keep it on the proper approach, maintain the airspeed, and follow the checkoff list, make sure you have a clean runway, there's actually very little time when you're actually looking at any angle high enough to challenge the horizon...
IFR. it is suggested when flying VFR that one looks up once in a while. LOL |
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Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 8:13pm |
[QUOTE=Lars(wi)]Probably military grade sun shades, or maybe even drop down visors, would be my guess. Planes always take off, and land ‘into the wind’.[/QUOTE I understand the "wind" landing/takeoff, my question is a pilots ability to land/takeoff into DIRECT sun light at 150 mph+  !! It's hard enough to drive a vehicle at 50-70m mph at certain times of the day with the "best" of glasses/visors |
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Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 9:43pm |
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Wife driving into early morning sun murdered a brick mailbox and her car but she walked away and like a good husband kept my mouth shut.🙄
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Posted: 24 Dec 2021 at 8:11am |
Way to go Stan!! Not very often that happens....LOL
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Posted: 24 Dec 2021 at 8:17am |
Just glad she walked away
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Posted: 24 Dec 2021 at 2:57pm |
gladder no one was getting the mail then ! hmm, 'gladder' , that's good english , right ??
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Posted: 24 Dec 2021 at 4:09pm |
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I have a bad Eye, enjoy Prescription level Polarized sun glasses to reduce the light sensitivity aspect, can see that being a Boon to Pilots. Bad thing of the eye injury, I can not ever gain a Mobile Crane Operator cert nor can I ever get a Pilot's License.
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Posted: 24 Dec 2021 at 5:21pm |
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As stated before, straight and level is worse. I was flying a Cessna 172 West back towards Kansas City one afternoon, the sun was such I couldn't see out the windshield. I positioned the plane to where I could see I-70 out my side window and kept it there along with checking the altimeter and made it back. Ran into my old flight instructor and told him I did a complete IFR flight, I Fly Roads, I-70 to 291 right to the airport.
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