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CrestonM
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Topic: Pull type disk?Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 5:13pm |
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I'm looking for a pull type disk, anything 6'-8'. It can't have hydraulics or 3pt hook up. Grandpa used to have an IH tandem disk that they pulled behind a G John Deere. He said when you would back up, the gangs would fold straight so you could pull it down the road. Then you would pull a rope and drive forward to set them back at an angle. That's like what I'm looking for.
Any of you guys ever used a disk that worked like that?
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TramwayGuy
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 5:26pm |
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Yes, we had one, back in the '50s. It had wood bearings inside a cast housing. When the bearings went out, we couldn't find any from any equipment dealer anywhere. Mainly because nobody seemed to know who made it.
I think it got scrapped, and we got a Case(?) disk that had a mechanical angle device that drove off the front right hand gang spindle. Edited by TramwayGuy - 17 Oct 2016 at 5:29pm |
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Chuck(ONT)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 5:32pm |
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I have one like that, been using it the past 16 years behind a JD B, then a WD45. Picked up a MM10 this fall to use behind my 180. Still a good working disc and still has a seat on it from when it was horse dawn.
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Tracy Martin TN
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 7:19pm |
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I have a couple of IH discs like that. They work really well. Tracy
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DiyDave
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 7:26pm |
Yep, they're called drag discs...
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Walker
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 7:44pm |
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It's about worn out but I have one I think is a Dunham that's like that.
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JW in MO
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 7:44pm |
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I have an 8' green one I bought to do a food plot but no longer do food plots. I also have a matching 2 row trip planter. Could just set you right up in the custom farming business.
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Roger (NE)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 8:01pm |
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Have an AC 15 foot single disk, wood block bearings, still usable. Think these were from the 1940's. PM me if it's something you would be interested in.
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randy
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 8:07pm |
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John deere, i think, but in east central illinois
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 8:12pm |
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I have several of those types, no disk leaves a better seed bed in my opinion.Think I have a couple IH,1 Oliver and 2 JD,usually can buy them at auctions for under $100.
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HudCo
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 8:32pm |
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we had one like that i always thought that it was an allis chalmers disc because it was orange. i was going to ask if any one new about it ours had hardwood bearings and cardboard shims that could be removed . we pulled ours with the wd45 with the farm hand that i have know and is told to grease the brearings every hour . it had about a 3/4 rod that was above the draw bar with hole a bout an inch apart with a pin that set the offset. i thought i seen another one like it about a year ago and it had allis chalmers on the side of the hitch
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Herb(GA)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 9:48pm |
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We had a 'before 40's' JD 10' tandem disc with hardwood halves bearings (that appeared to have some oil impregnation type of treatment). They were long lasting if they were greased often. Separate hand crank for depth adjustment of each disc set (front and rear). This undesirable feature was replaced with the backup adjustment method sometime in the 40's. Hydraulics followed in a decade or so.The plus of the hand crank was finite control, which resulted in the smooth field mentioned above.Herb(GA)
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CrestonM
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 10:28pm |
Any implements I get will be pulled by a WC, so that rules out anything big. Good news...I have a lead on a 6 or 7 foot drag disk that is orange. May or not be Allis, but pics will tell. Good news is it's only 30 miles away. JW...I might would be interested in the trip planter, if you would sell it and if there was a way to get it here. |
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 10:42pm |
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I have a 10' John Deere one I bought for $50. I use it once every couple years on my corn patch. When I pull the rope it straightens out and I have to back up to set the angle. WD 45 pulls it real easy with 10 cement block added to the wieght box. I had to take all the blocks out to pull with the CA. Withe two harrow sections behind it it makes a nice seed bed. Using the CA I have to pull the harrow sections seperate from the disk.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 17 Oct 2016 at 11:34pm |
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I had one of those 8' IH disks with the rope pull adjuster. I could put a tube of grease in each section and it would still squeak and squawk all the time I pulled it. I drug a three section spring tooth harrow behind it. Made a real nice flat finish.
I sold it a couple years back to some youngster that was trying to get a start in produce. He came with a little lightweight trailer with four sections of plywood for sides. We took it apart into sections to put in the trailer. then he put a big ratchet strap all the way around it to keep the sides on. Looked a little risky to me, but he never called for help so I figure he made it home ok. That was a good disk and so easy to use! |
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Tbone95
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 6:42am |
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Our old one was a Minnie Mo I was told. I don't know for sure, it was rust colored when I was a little kid pulling it around the field, and that was a long time ago. It wasn't real handy to change angle, you had to go forward or back just enough to get the piece of frame to loosen up in the hole, set it beside, and go forward or back to change the angle, and if you didn't get it right, on and off the tractor again. If you were lucky, you could get close enough to set that frame member in front of the hole you wanted and drive ahead it would fall in. We didn't change it much, since mostly farmed up and down a 1/2 mile of dirt road in those days. Depth was only set by how much weight you put in the boxes, what was left of them. And I wouldn't say it left a great seed bed. At least 3 to 4 trips over a field, then a spring tooth drag to finish it off.
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TedBuiskerN.IL.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 9:03am |
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I have three Allis #9 drag discs for sale, 6', 7', and 8' $200 choice.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 9:29am |
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I have three disks. The first one I bought as a Oliver model 232 12 foot tandem disk. Way too much for my MF-135 so I took the four gang assemblies off, and ran a couple 4" steel I beams front to rear about 4 feet apart under the frame and bolted on two gang assemblies at opposite angles making an offset disk. In plowed ground it pulled as hard as 2x 16 plow running 10" deep.
Then with the 4020 I acquired a JD plow with folding wings. It needed work and I used bearings from the wings to fix it leaving it about 14' wide. It worked decently making three passes after spring plowing. Then I added a row of spring teeth behind it and the seed bed was ready after two passes. Another JD disk came in the wind break when I bought this house. Its harder to shrink, I think. All require a hydraulic cylinder to lift. I went notill at the farm about 2003 and rented it to a strip tiller in 2009 so I'm not using any of these disks. Gerald J. |
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RMD
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 9:51am |
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We had a AC No. 10 six foot tandem disk that was like that. Pulled it with a CA.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 10:00am |
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Is there a disc that is not pull type?
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 10:44am |
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I also have a 6 foot #10 Allis disc, I think, that Dad got with the C and used with the CA. It needs a good home.
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Brian F(IL)
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 11:23am |
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I had a #10 Allis disc that I donated to Dale's museum. I'm guessing he's still got it. I believe my great-grandfather pulled it with a WC.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 12:39pm |
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We had a Kelly Ryan disc we pulled behind a "C". Boy it did good work and would bury to the boxing. One time over plowed ground and then harrow and you were ready to plant.
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 12:54pm |
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We had a 6' AC cover crop disk. When you backed up it folded the disk together. You did have to always turn left with it. Pulled it with an AC model M crawler. It would chop up Scotch Boom really good. Some of those stems were 3". Also used it for breaking timberland after pushing the stumps out. Some times second pass you had to fold it in some, it was pushing dirt over the axles. Blades were 24" and 12" apart....James
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HudCo
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 9:23pm |
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anyone got some pictures of older a/c disc with wood bearings ?
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 18 Oct 2016 at 11:35pm |
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Ours was 8ft Oliver drag disc.WD pulled it.WE was in tall cotton when uncle Bill bought a 10ft snap coupler wheel disc with T-bar hitch and we got the use for shedding it.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2016 at 4:41am |
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Leon....I never knew that Kelly Ryan made a disk! their factory is in my town. still in business, i'll hafta ask my buddies down there if they still have parts for the disks? lol
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DougS
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Posted: 19 Oct 2016 at 5:28am |
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Yeah Creston, I used one like that. It was wayyyyyyy before you were born. It was annoying as heck when pulling it down the road. If you find one today I bet parts are going to be hard to come by. I couldn't imagine one that isn't worn out.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2016 at 8:17am |
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Someday when I grow up I hope I can get one of these to pull with my WD 45. Maybe someday.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2016 at 11:39am |
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There used to be an A-C dealer in Humeston. I'll bet if you drive the back roads around Wayne co you'll find one.
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