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1958 D14 - 3 pt Hitch, No Arms

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Topic: 1958 D14 - 3 pt Hitch, No Arms
Posted By: Kamikaze_Emu
Subject: 1958 D14 - 3 pt Hitch, No Arms
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 3:00pm
I am super new to tractors and I am looking to purchase something to help me with grading, back filling, etc during a house build, and then snow clearing and other misc. tasks on a few acres once the house is complete. 

I found a D14 in my area, however in the ad the seller notes that the tractor has a 3 pt hitch, but without arms. 

This is a photo of the rear of the tractor. 


What parts would I need to get so I could use a grader blade or a snowblower?  Is it even possible?  Without the arms in place would the hydraulics for lift be present on the hitch/tractor as is or would I need to run additional hydraulics?

Thanks!




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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 3:36pm
A D14 never had a 3pt from the factory. You have the snap couple lift latches. You can get an adapter that connects to the snap coupler. 

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 4:14pm
I have 3 of the 'Snap-Coupler to 3PT adapters here near Hamilton,On. where abouts are you ?


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Posted By: Kamikaze_Emu
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

I have 3 of the 'Snap-Coupler to 3PT adapters here near Hamilton,On. where abouts are you ?


I am near Ottawa.

If I purchased the tractor I would be interested in the conversion kit. 

What are you selling them for?


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 4:40pm
wife would toss it in if you bought a D-14 off me.....
...so gotta think up a price...yer 5.5 hrs away...
Jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Kamikaze_Emu
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

A D14 never had a 3pt from the factory. You have the snap couple lift latches. You can get an adapter that connects to the snap coupler. 


Amazing, thanks. 

With the proper terminology I was able to do some searching and the whole situation is a lot more clear now. 

Thanks again. 


Posted By: Kamikaze_Emu
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

wife would toss it in if you bought a D-14 off me.....
...so gotta think up a price...yer 5.5 hrs away...
Jay


The float fees on the tractor would probably make me cry.  It is too bad you aren't closer, I wouldn't hesitate to come take a look at one of yours.

I was looking at some 3 point conversions and it looks like the draw bar on the tractor isn't the standard one and there are some extra bits of metal below the PTO near the bar.  I'm wondering if that might cause me issues with the conversion kit.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 6:23pm
Yes, that draw bar is homemade... I have 2 or 3 real ones collecting rust, er ,dust, here.
When I removed the loader from 'Troy', I made a 'carry-all' which has a 2" receiver on it. I put a sleeve in ( 2" ball for trailer tugging, empty to use as a drawbar ). carry-all has removable (ugh..) 5000# forklift forks on it.
 Will take pictures of the 'adapter' tomorrow,hopefully after I 'acquire' several loads of 'ponypoop'.


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 6:37pm
The seller is ignorant. It is NOT or ever was a 3-point hitch. There is no top link connection !!  It doesn't even have a regulation snap-coupler drawbar.  Do the lift arms even go up and down ??


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 6:42pm
Looks like some crude torch work on the home-built drawbar. I would check the tractor over very carefully before buying it. 

Make sure it doesn't jump out of either second or third gear. Transmission repairs are very expensive.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 7:00pm
there are a couple different "generic" designs for 3 point adaptors for the ALLIS tractors.

The first is a VEE shaped lower arms with the bail built into the end that replaces your present drawbar... and two arms that connect up to your lift arms... you still need a TOP LINK for the 3 point.

Second type is a bracket that bolts to the tractor  / drawbar and then has two individual lower links that pin to it... and again two arms that connect to your lift arms.







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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 7:09pm
The second (lower) picture requires the OEM drawbar bail, which this tractor doesn't have.


Posted By: Kamikaze_Emu
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

there are a couple different "generic" designs for 3 point adaptors for the ALLIS tractors.

The first is a VEE shaped lower arms with the bail built into the end that replaces your present drawbar... and two arms that connect up to your lift arms... you still need a TOP LINK for the 3 point.

Second type is a bracket that bolts to the tractor  / drawbar and then has two individual lower links that pin to it... and again two arms that connect to your lift arms.







Thanks for that.  I was looking at kits and the second style I could find in my area, but thanks to your info I realize it isn't going to work.  If I went with the VEE shaped kit would that include everything I need to get me to the point where I could use standard 3 point hitch accessories?


Posted By: Kamikaze_Emu
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by WF owner WF owner wrote:

Looks like some crude torch work on the home-built drawbar. I would check the tractor over very carefully before buying it. 

Make sure it doesn't jump out of either second or third gear. Transmission repairs are very expensive.


Sounds good, thanks. 

Is there a handy used buyers guide kicking around anywhere for me to reference?


Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 8:34pm
You can build a 3pt hit kit, it's not hard. I built the one on my D17 so if I can do it anybody can do it!


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 8:35pm
Originally posted by Kamikaze_Emu Kamikaze_Emu wrote:

Originally posted by WF owner WF owner wrote:

Looks like some crude torch work on the home-built drawbar. I would check the tractor over very carefully before buying it. 

Make sure it doesn't jump out of either second or third gear. Transmission repairs are very expensive.


Sounds good, thanks. 

Is there a handy used buyers guide kicking around anywhere for me to reference?


This is the place for your used buyer's guide.  There is a lot of knowledge here.  I personally have 3 D14s and absolutely love them.  Unfortunately, AC was late joining the 3 point hitch game.  The D15 (which succeeded the D14) had a 3 point as an option, but was pretty flimsy.  For a good rugged 3 point hitch set up, you would want a Series 4 D17 - a considerably larger and more expensive tractor.


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 8:58pm
If I went with the VEE shaped kit would that include everything I need to get me to the point where I could use standard 3 point hitch accessories?

Jason.. you want a 3 POINT HITCH.. look at the picture and you can see the lower two arms that are lifted by your UPPER HYDRAULIC arms on the tractor... You are STILL MISSING the upper link or the 3RD ARM for the 3 POINT...  that is normally an adjustable link that is attached to a BRACKET above the pto housing near the back of the seat.. Couple different ways to "make that".





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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 15 May 2022 at 9:05pm


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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 16 May 2022 at 7:18am
I have a CNC version of the '3 holed top link bracket' here,well 3 really....
Also a snap coupler read blade, wife says I don't need....a 3 furrow plow, wife says I don't need, a 5' rototiller, wife says I don't need, a ?-version subsoiler, the wife says I don't need, a 9 tooth cultivator, wife says i don't need and of course 3 D-14s, yes, the wife says I don't need....


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 May 2022 at 9:09am
Jason... i think its time to start calling Jay... Daddy... and maybe he will adopt you !! Wink

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Posted By: TomC
Date Posted: 16 May 2022 at 9:31am
I have a Cross Manufactured 3 point on my 52 CA, Cross is out of Mindenmine Mo. I do have motor side weights on it, I hook a 5 foot bush hog,box blade ,scraper blade and a 50 gallon boom sprayer, not once has the front end left the ground, it does get noticably easier to steer until the sprayer has used about 1/3 of the contents,but even full the wheels have never left the ground.



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