New starter switches-junk!
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Topic: New starter switches-junk!
Posted By: caRon
Subject: New starter switches-junk!
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 11:11am
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These things are very cheaply made, broke after one week of use. Is there a kit to rebuild the original? ------------- CA Tractor |
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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 11:24am
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Get a Cole Hersee switch whenever you can. |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 3:05pm
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A lot of general purpose-universal switches are only rated for 5 amps! Read the specs on the switches if you are re-wiring your way and consider the loads. Did I see a suggestion not too long ago to route the output of an alternator through the ignition switch? Ain't going to work, for long. If it is a purpose built replacement part that is failing, then it might be a cheap-o.
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 4:22pm
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Yes the mechanical switches that attach to the starter and is rod operated are junk. I don't know of anything currently available new that is not made in China for this application. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: HoughMade
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 4:47pm
I took mine apart and filed the contacts until they were smooth and fully, well, contacted each other. If there's enough left of the switch, that's an option. ------------- 1951 B |
PaulB wrote:Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 5:55pm
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Cole Hersee Manufactured In: Mexico http://www.elecdirect.com/cole-hersee-switches/cole-hersee-ignition-switches/foot-operated-starter-angle-mount" rel="nofollow - http://www.elecdirect.com/cole-hersee-switches/cole-hersee-ignition-switches/foot-operated-starter-angle-mount OR https://www.dbelectrical.com/products/91001bx-cole-hersee-starter-switch-for-universal.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.dbelectrical.com/products/91001bx-cole-hersee-starter-switch-for-universal.html OR http://www.partdeal.com/wiring-electrical/switches/misc-switches/cole-hersee-off-on-foot-operated-starter-switch-with-angled-mount-boxed-91001.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o19&scid=scplp77163534&sc_intid=77163534&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5p6TzIfv5AIVUL7ACh0yzgWTEAQYEyABEgIvnPD_BwE" rel="nofollow - http://www.partdeal.com/wiring-electrical/switches/misc-switches/cole-hersee-off-on-foot-operated-starter-switch-with-angled-mount-boxed-91001.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o19&scid=scplp77163534&sc_intid=77163534&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5p6TzIfv5AIVUL7ACh0yzgWTEAQYEyABEgIvnPD_BwE
------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 7:40pm
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Oh, THAT starter switch, not an ignition key switch. |
Posted By: HoughMade
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 10:21pm
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I’m assuming for a CA. ------------- 1951 B |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 8:23am
I had a similar problem. Removed the old switch, cleaned all the contact points, and put it back on. Has been working fine for several years now.
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Posted By: 1939Dodge
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 8:43am
| Steve at B&B Custom Circuits has good switches. |
Posted By: caRon
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 11:14am
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The Cole Hersee looks identical to the one I have minus the side terminal. Is that a positive or negative terminal? I could try to clean up my old one, but one problem is the spring and push button is wore out, and binding. ------------- CA Tractor |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 11:17am
B,C,CA, Styled WC, WD and the WD45 all had the same starter switch. Well, except for some of early tractors that had an Autolite starter.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 12:11pm
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Most likely positive, but you can check it with a VOM, and if it's activated only when the switch is depressed, for voltage to something else when starting. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2019 at 7:36pm
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I can see if you're 'whimpy' about pushing on the rod, you'd get a LOT of burning and pitting of the contacts which of course makes it worse the next time you use it. Push hard and hold.... would be my advice. It's also important that both pieces mate very well ! ANY rough spots and arcing will occour, again , pitting the pieces. I've always wondered about 'figuring the math' to choose a capacitor to cross the switch to quench some of the arc ( same as points) then something else comes up, someone wants something, sigh...too many projects too little time.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2019 at 8:05am
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Steve is right. We still have a pile of USA made switches yet from 25 years ago when I bought out an old Automotive Electrical business. The real way to go is change the Starter motor over to a stud design, and incorporate a starter relay to it like the "D" series Tractors have. No voltage drop, full power to the Starter. Use a good quality starter solenoid like a C/H or SMP version for forklifts and a high amp key crank Ignition switch. I keep all of that in stock... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: AC Guy
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 12:52pm
| I have an Allis C and have had problems with the factory original starter switch. I was able to clean it up by sand blasting it. You must remove it completely to get it into the sand blaster. |