WD industrial model?
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Topic: WD industrial model?
Posted By: 59f100292
Subject: WD industrial model?
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 12:54pm
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I went to look at a WD for sale a few days back and quickly noticed the following oddities: - non power shift rear wheels - no PTO - no handclutch - No hydraulic system at all. Pump, lines, rams, arms, or controls. It’s my understanding these were all standard features on the WD The clue that makes me think it came from the factory this was, and not just cobbled together from ofther parts, is that on the steering column, the cast semicircle just in front of the throttle and hydraulic controls was cast from the factory as just a 90 degree arc on the throttle side, no sign of their ever being the left side arc for a hydraulic control. After a phone call with Bill Long we were of the opinion that it may have been sold that way from the factory to an industrial application for nothing put pulling. Has anyone heard of such a tractor? Any other ideas what it’s history may be? Is it worth anything? Unfortunately I am looking to buy a tractor that will at a minimum run a bush hog, so this one is not of value to me. If it turns out it’s some rare specialty I may go back and make an offer anyhow. Advertised as a 48’ model. I didn’t bother to write down the serial number as I was not interested in the purchase once I saw it was missing PTO and Hydraulics. The current owner uses it to pull a wagon on Halloween and wasn’t aware the missing features were significant. |
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Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 4:38pm
| Go back and take some pics of it, I would like to see it. I have never seen one like that before |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 6:24pm
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Your dealer was able to delete one or even all this list (maybe even more) from the factory, shift rear wheels, PTO, hydraulic system, hand clutch, lights, starter, generator. ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 6:50pm
I know WD45's were shipped to Henry mfg, for mounting loaders and backhoes, so it wouldn't me much of a stretch, to have WD's as industrial units...
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 7:11pm
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What I would find to be the real head scratcher is the steering column throttle bracket. Be it a purpose build industrial model or a standard farm tractor w/dealer deletes, why go to the bother of creating a separate part for either reason. ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 8:13pm
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I've seen the half throttle quadrant but only on pulling tractors where they were cut off to save every ounce possible ------------- 1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow |
Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 10:00pm
| The parts for such a tractor are in the regular parts book. Covers, hand clutch delete coupling, etc. I did not notice the half quadrant, though. |
Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 10:49am
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Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 11:06am
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Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 11:07am
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 1:08pm
| Why would anyone do that? Took a modern tractor back to the stone age. |
Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 2:45pm
| Just pure speculation but after comparing photos I could believe the wheels and rims are straight off the WC. |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 3:21pm
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Anyone could have striped this down . ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 3:48pm
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Wheels can't be. WC was 6 hole, WD was 8. I'm not sure what that thing originally was, but they did a good job painting it. AaronSEIA
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 5:04pm
Pullers do it all the time.
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SteveM C/IL wrote:Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 6:33pm
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Gary ,after looking at it a few more times ,I would say that it is nothing less then a puller . LOL ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 7:16pm
You’re right. I double checked. It has 8 lugs. |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 9:42pm
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I agree about it being a puller. Using 3 pt top links for adjusting height of hitch, is a dead give away. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 9:50pm
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Couple other things that stick out is the location of the light switches. Also notice the spacers on the hitch. Stack of washers and oversize nuts. If that was factory, those would either be solid plates, or the brackets would have been made longer so no spacers would have been needed. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 10:01pm
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Without a doubt the drawbar is not original. He rewired the electrical harness to add a fuse (seen on top of the box) and add lights for the wagon he pulled neighborhood kids in at Holloween. The current owner did those switches on the side of the box unrelated to tractor pulling. All that being said, it does all seem to point to a past puller that someone retired to suburban duty. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 2:56pm
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After further research by examining Pop's Price Book (1960) tractors could have been shipped from the factory as BASE TRACTORS. That means that the basic tractor less the PTO, Hydraulics, Hand Clutch, and the spin out wheels could have been purchased. Looking at the pictures this is one of those BASE tractors. Why someone would want one is beyond me. Even though I sold them for the life of the unit I was not aware of this option. In fact, having handled many WD tractors new and used I NEVER repeat NEVER saw this unit. Very interesting. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 3:13pm
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Im on the tractor puller band wagon as well. Ive it were a standard tractor it would still have a regular drawbar. I also noticed the shutters are also gone. ------------- An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 7:56pm
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Yea looks like something I would do! Except for the skulls, Not into that! Screams puller to me! Bill, I think you can rest easy on this one. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 8:20pm
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Hand clutch is not there, I'd bet money it's a solid coupling under the cover... When I first read the opening post, puller was the first thought that came to my mind...now that I've seen pictures, pretty darn sure puller... |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 9:20pm
| The cover for pump don't look like a factory cover would. Looks home made. MACK |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 6:04am
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The factory cover was cut in a curve similar to the one in the pictures. I agree though, it doesn't look quite right. Cover was part number 70222529. AaronSEIA
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