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Tom59 
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 7:47am |
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What was the popular size implements for most farmers that brought a Allis Chalmers D-17 tractor? Most of the plows I seen with a D-17 tractor in my area was 3 bottoms, I in the Middle Tennessee area so a lot of clay subsoil plus rocks which I think might play a role. Know from other discussions that a lot pull a four bottom plow. Also what was the most common size disk used behind a D-17 tractor and most common size disc blade diameter on most disks when these tractors were new. It seem most of the farms that had a tractor that size was dairy farms ( I was a little boy in the sixties ) and they put silage in a silo.. I remember seeing a lot D-17 tractors ( mainly gasoline models ) selling at auctions in the seventies and eighties, but in last twenty years don’t remember seeing many in my area. I always seem to like that series of tractors.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 9:16am |
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3 x 16's plow (48 inch cut) or 4 x 14's (56 inches cut). Discs usually 13 ft of an Allis brand.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 9:39am |
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4 X 14 semi-mount plow with working traction booster was a good combination where I'm from along with a 13' disc with traction booster hitch.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 10:16am |
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Those D-17 tractors seem be pretty gutsy to be able to handle that size disk. I got a Bush Hog brand model 1432 disk that is about 9 1/2 feet wide that seem a load enough for my MF 275 tractor in plow ground discing.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 11:20am |
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Not all discs are created equal. Those old AC discs were a finish disc and had small diameter blades with very little weight per blade. The gang angle wasn't too steep either. I'll bet your disc weighs much more and has larger diameter blades at a steeper gang angle.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 12:06pm |
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Dad bought a new 1 in 1959. 3x16 plow handled it better than the 45, snap coupler 4 row cultivator, 13'6" snap coupler disk with fold up wings on it. He pulled it in plowed ground with the wings up first time over then dropped the wings for the second trip with duals on the 17. I personally baled 10's of thousands of small round bales with it, starting when I was in 6th grade.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 5:59pm |
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3/16s gonna be plenty big for a D17 in your area we would pull 3/14s with a gas burner and a diesel both snap coupler If you could find a 11ft snap coupler disk will be plenty big for it may have to tote it in turned ground. We used to do some business with Eskew implement there in Lebanon back in the eighties on hwy 70 on the smithville side of Lebanon as you come into town. Good luck them D17s are great little tractors
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 7:25pm |
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3 by 16 inch snap coupler mounter AC plow with harrow,13 and half foot Kewanee disc 18 inch blades, 4 row mounted AC lister snap coupler, 4 row rear mounted AC model 500 cultivator snap coupler, 5 shank anhydrous side dress machine, 180 handled that much better. New Idea mounted corn picker. Allis silage chopper. 16 inch hammermill. Plus a 60 combine and a roto baler, all that kept Dads D17 gasser pretty busy for the year. It really made a very nice 4 row tractor that could get over the ground pretty quick. And very reliable.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 7:30pm |
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W3 had 3- 16 for the plow and 11 ft heavy disc with 300 pounds concrete weights in the box.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2021 at 7:54pm |
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Eskew Impllement was a good Allis Chalmers dealer. There was s lot of Allis Chalmers tractors in this area and it still seems like there still a lot of the older Gleaner combines ( E and K combine size ) in barns around the countryside..
Edited by Tom59 - 17 Mar 2021 at 8:02pm
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 3:36am |
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Growing up the farmer I worked for called his disk 13', and those wings were about all I could handle, It had large blades on it. It was orange so I figured it was AC. Pulled it from the drawbar. It made that 17 work when it was doing fresh ground.
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Tom59
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 6:25am |
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Never realized that the Allis Chalmers 13 foot size disk had wings on it, I just thought by the pictures and videos I look t it was solid frame. I bet it made storage in a equipment shed a lot easier and plus going in and out of gates easier. But thinking back to the sixties there work not been a lot of big equipment sheds then, probably just able to get a tractor like the AC D-17 inside as it was. Plus the sheds was probably about 10 feet wide if that to back a disk inside to store, if it was put inside.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 6:43am |
Here is my 1958 D17 with a set of 3 bottoms. It works real well with these in our clay ground.
We did not have a D17 on the farm but it would have fit in real nice between the WD45's and the Ford 5000. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 7:10am |
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True, but my dad bought a D-15 series 2 factory 3ph and it came with a 10' wheel disc with blades that were 22". We pulled it with ease thru pasture as we got ready to reseed. Just had to make sure you got it out of the ground before you turned or that front outside disc was toast.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 8:20am |
The D17 is plenty capable of pulling, but the quantity of blades and area in the ground is only part of the circumstance, so one cannot simply say a blade size and quantity. My grandfather would pull a 4-bottom AND a 3 bottom with his, but it depended on the field. His river-bottom soil would easly allow four under some circumstances, but the hills above would usually only allow 3. The soil down there was loamy, and if it wasn't too stiff on top, it'd roll nicely with the 4 and be ready quick. Clay up on the hills was not so amicable.
The implements that I ran the most, were the sickle mower (cutting down high weeds in two places), the rotary mower, and the new Idea 555 square-baler. My grandfather's opinion of the D17, was it was the "finest hay bailing tractor ever built".
I don't bale hay with mine... neither the land, equipment, or need... but having spent plenty of time nudging the PD to control the 555's appetite for alfalfa, I understand why he felt that way. I use mine as a general purpose utility... homemade 3 point, I built a 3-point face that has a pair of standard forklift forks, I've got a box blade, a pivoting scraper, an engine hoist (really handy!!!) and a trailer-receiver with chain hooks, a 5ft bush-hog, a backhoe attachment, and a snowblade... a plow for burying invisible fence wire, a 10ft disc and some spike-harrows...
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 9:41am |
ON our farm in the mid-60's. the D-17 was the "big tractor" everything the WD-45 did, this tractor took over--big snap-coupler disc (w/o wings), duals for working ground, especially first time over, and pulling Brillion cultimulcher, and "soil surgeon". Having a Power Director and wide-front made it handier than the NF WD-45. It also did hay baling duty with the New Holland Super 68 baler. The WD handled planting duties with a 4-row AC tool bar snap coupler planter (2-two row combined--it was all the hydraulics could handle). The 45 and 17 would handle 4 row cultivators well. The 33 corn picker was sold and replaced with a 170 picker for the 17 and narrow front installed. A great picker--my dad always said that, "the 33 harvester was a 'snapper' not a 'husker'", and the 170 picker with the power director on the D-17 was a great match. R. Musgrave
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