Poor mans power steering, and loader work

This panel fit pretty good.

 

 

Tacked them both  in place, to try and keep warping to a minimum.

 

 

Half a box of 6013s later.

 

 

Seems to work pretty good to weld a rods length  over here, then go over there, and jump around to keep stuff cool.

 

Not sure if I can ever so gently tap that top panel straight with a sledgehammer or not.

 

 

Now that I think on it a bit, I wonder if one or both ends of the bucket are bent upwards, that would cause the metal to bow up like that. I didn't check if the bottom was flat, I guess I thought it sat on the cement floor like it should.  Its a little late now, the back is welded tight and there ain't no going back in that department. I may just slice that piece with a thin wheel, straighten it out as best as possible, and weld it back together.

 

 

 

Next, weld all around on the inside, straighten out that top piece, and we should be sitting pretty good in the snow bucket department.

 

One advantage of working on a 40 some year old, farmer fixed bucket is, there is nary a straight piece or square corner left on the dang thing anymore, so you can really only improve it, right?

 

Thanks for looking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's as bad as Sat**day, but I can understand the T U R D part.  But what is so bad about s l a g??  Wonder if we can type slug....a u in there?

You're doin good and I'll drop mine off for you to do when I'm heading up to Alexs' place.  Probably in the spring some time, so make a copy of the plans otherwise you'll forget what you did by then.   But then, by that time, I will have forgotten I was gonna do it in the first place.

I don't know what I'd do without the PS on my WD45!?!  I used to have the loadeer on a different 45, but when I got the PS one, over it went and I've never looked back.  The older ones have power steering by Armstrong.....and I'm not any more.

 

 

 

Its horrible. Between the angle iron and the brake pedals and the hand clutch and my big feet, and having to reach around the steering wheel, no. Just no.

 

Well, lets try this

 

 

 

More gooder. Its right at your right hand, doesn't impede getting on and off, and the hoses can follow the fender down and head over by the hydraulic pump, where they all need to go anyways.

 

My cylinders were supposed to arrive on the 26th. They showed up today.

 

So, I can test fit and get the upper mounts located.

 

Boy, this bucket is really kicking my backside. That angle on the rear of the bucket is just a pain to work around. Now that I have the cylinders, you can see the bucket is going to hit the lower fittings. Grrrrrr. 

 

 

 

Thought about reworking the mount plates and raise the bottom pins an inch or two, but I think I just may notch the bucket so there is clearance around the fitting area, and box it in inside the bucket.

 

I think the main reason I want a full hydraulic loader is for working with forks, the bucket will not get used as much, but we will see.

 

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! Its a ways away, but I'm making progress. Got all my fittings and plugs on the way, need a filter and base yet too, run some hoses, make a set of forks, and we should be set.

 

Hope the warm weather sticks around....

 

 

 Nice job, littlemarv,,another day or two and you be ready to start on the forks,,,, I kinda like where you placed the main valve on the fender,,,out of the way should you have to "Bail" some day,,,,,

 Ever since I finished my D14 Industrial,,,I have NOT liked where Allis placed the main valve because it blocks any egress in or out on the right side. The valve is bolted to the beam where you hung your filter, which is also the reservoir and the valve points straight back,,,Blocking all that area,,,I've thougfht and thought bout fabricating an adapter angled towards the center of tractor that would allow in and out on the right and still have good operator access to the main valve,,,,,,,????

 Maybe others can chime in with some pics of theirs,,,??

 

 

After several trips back and forth getting hoses made, finally got them close enough to put together and try it out. After installing the hoses, tightening all the fittings, and dumping in more hydraulic oil than a WD should hold, got everything up and moving. I had to fill the reservoir, work the tilt till they stopped moving, fill and work, fill and work, to get the system filled.

 

If you think about it, the tilt circuits will always be full, on both sides. So that is not a lot of oil going out of and into the reservoir. The lift arms and the loader arms, being one way cylinders, will take oil out of the reservoir and put it back in. I may have to overfill it, if I want to raise the loader and lift arms all the way at the same time. That's a test for up at Grandpa Marvins this spring.

 

I installed some one way control valves in the lift arms years ago, to stop the rear mounted implements from crashing to earth. I suppose, with the new valve bank, I can remove those and just use the lever to control the lowering.

 

So, the original hydraulic lever on the quadrant is now kind of an on/off lever, and I have the three functions on the fender, with one blank one reserved for "future use". Lord only knows what I will dream up next.

 

 

 

The bucket has become my arch nemesis. It curls back, but not as much as I'd like. And, if you aren't paying attention and you tilt forward too far, you can hit the pistons of the cylinders on the loader arms. Won't take long to wreck them cylinders.

 

 

And, when you curl back, the bucket is hitting the cylinders below the fittings.

 

 

So, I could invest more time and make some stop blocks for both directions, but I wonder if I shouldn't wave the white flag if I can find a bucket that would fit better. That back of the bucket being slanted is the cause of all my problems. I thought about getting out my protractor, compass, and etch a skech, and see if I could cut the bucket apart and make the back straight and weld it back together, but I may be better off finding one that will work. If it wasn't for all the  3/16" steel I welded in the back, I'd turn it into a raised flower bed or something.  Grrrrrrrr. That's to be dealt with this summer.

 

Going to build the forks and get the tractor back up to the farm, we are remodeling the kitchen (gulp) and need the garage space.

 

 

Now, to tie up the 50 loose ends or so that come up during my projects- "oh, I'll take care of that later"

 

Well, its later. Mount the hoses and secure them all in place, fabricate my forks, line bore the main pivot pins somehow, and we should be in the home stretch. Plus ten other little things I have forgotten about along the way. Supposed to be near or above freezing this weekend, good weather to work outside yet!

 

Thanks for looking.

 

 

Little Marv, that is why some loaders had the tilt cylinders under the arms...

  And when you get into wet snow, watch so the wet snow does not build up in between the loader arms and cylinders and between arms and bucket and turn into ice and binds... and bends.