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allispuller 
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Posted: 21 Sep 2015 at 6:59pm |
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I was wondering what model plow an Allis 24-14 plow share fits
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Chalmersbob
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Posted: 21 Sep 2015 at 8:50pm |
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I never heard of that share #. The old numbers were 6 digits long and are now 8 digits long. Bob
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4 B's, 1 C's,3 CA's, 2 G's WD, D14, D15, B-1, B10, B12, 712S,
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 21 Sep 2015 at 11:08pm |
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Read Plows parts 101 up top. Most AC plows will take most any AC plow bottom. There was a model 24 plow bottom 14" bottom width. Some bottoms share shares, nearly all share landsides, but moldboards, frogs, shins (if they are separate from the moldboard), and most shares aren't interchangeable between bottoms, but complete bottoms interchange between nearly all AC plow frames. Most plow bottoms had at least 4 different shares with different shapes and materials, some bottoms that came in multiple widths had a dozen possible shares, more if offered in both right hand and left hand bottoms. Many details in the link up above with plow bottoms and plow frames books linked.
Gerald J.
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allispuller
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 5:54pm |
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The number on the back says 24-14 so would it be safe to assume they are for a model 24 plow?
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DiyDave
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 6:03pm |
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I don't know if you can post a picture, but it would help. Is it a flat share, with 3 or 4 bolt holes in it, or does it have part of the landside integral to it, and the 1 bolt, and hook setup for mounting?
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allispuller
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 7:37pm |
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I could see about getting a picture they belong to a good friend of mine but i was told that they are a blacksmith share instead of the trow away type share and that they have origanal allis markings on them along with 24-14
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 8:13pm |
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Its an aftermarket share for #24 bottom 14". I have a couple but cant remember for certain who made them, Weise I think.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 8:18pm |
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All the data I have shows only 6 digit AC part numbers. The referenced plow bottoms book does have a #24 bottom 14"wide. Pages 62 to 74 with 12, 14, and 16" widths. Also right and left hand. Some frogs were welded and some were forged. Shares were anchored by a hook bolt, and the nut on some was a hand wheel, and on others was a hex nut. Shares were offered in soft center steel, solid steel, and chilled iron. Shares were offered in narrow cut deep suck and narrow cut deep suck stony and narrow cut conventional suck. Also narrow cut stony as well as full cut deep suck. 7 different share options for 14" with forged frog. 8 different share options for the oldest 14" with welded frog and no part numbers in common with those for the forged frog. The first two frogs had a bolted draw rod bracket and the third frog (welded) had a welded draw rod bracket and 9 different 14" share options. Most of the shares for the welded frog were the same except one 12" share was marked as a narrow cut for the 14" bottom also. There are line drawings of the frog side of the bottoms in the referenced plow bottoms book that you can download.
I believe that the 24-14 designation is from another share maker who also stamped Allis Chalmers but it wasn't a share made by or sold by AC.
Gerald J.
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Auntwayne
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:42pm |
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A blacksmith share is one built back up by a "blacksmith" after the original share was to worn down to continue using. Simply take them off, take them to your local blacksmith and have him build them back up. I remember ours being built back up several times. We just bought another plow back in December '14, and the previous owner had the shares " built " back up. I have never seen a better quality build up in my life, and I am old.
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:51pm |
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Local old time welder did our shares every 2-3 years, "Keverneland" plows and he said they were very easy to re-do; we supplied new bolts and he built the rest. I remember he used cardboard O-Be-Joyful tobacco boxes that he kept behind the seat of his old Ford one ton welding truck, to hand sketch the templates he made for all brands of plows in the area.
He was a true craftsman that could weld anything, known for his cast iron work and serviced our plows (including the A-C) well into his 80's.
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