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CA52
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Topic: Pictures of my plowPosted: 08 Mar 2017 at 12:32pm |
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Here are a few pictures of my plow (I hope they uploaded).
I bought it up in Caledonia, WI, along with a two row cultivator for my CA. As a side note, be sure you know what state the sellers town is in, as there are multiple towns with the same name in differing states. How I know that is called experience. I was thinking it is a 50s series frame, but am not positive. the bottoms are marked NO. 24-14 R.H. referring to moldboard style and width a presume. An ID tag behind the front plow has this number pressed in it 3(4)or(1)7360. My tractor is the pin hitch type, so I will need to swap out a few parts before hooking it up to the tractor, which is currently having surgery. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Unit3
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Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 12:42pm |
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Nice little find. I hope the surgery goes well for the CA.
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 12:42pm |
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Plenty of SC Bells out there if you wanted to convert the tractor vs. implements, makes things plenty easy when you just back into the implement and she snaps in. If you do pick up a bell assy. for your tractor, make sure the spring is in good condition before using . . .
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 1:07pm |
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There is a detailed post AC Plows Parts 101 over in the Knowledge Forum.
The vertical shanks do indicate 50 family, two bottoms 52 frame. i believe the 24 was a common plow bottom on the 50s but there were others and they all used the same frog mounting bolts. Looking in the plow bottoms book referenced in that post, there are three variations on the frog for the 24, one with a bolted draw rod bracket and forged frog, then bolted draw rod bracket and welded frog and a welded draw rod bracket and welded frog. The forged frog takes different shares and moldboard than the welded frogs. There is an operator's manual on http://www.granpastractor.com for 52 specifically set up for WD tractors. If you can't find it I can put it up on my website. Gerald J. |
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CA52
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Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:24pm |
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Thanks Gerald for the info, I will check into that.
Tim, I looked at going that route, but decided against for a couple reasons. One, I would have to remove the bell in order to run my belly mower and two, the cost was significant. I thought it might be easier to find parts to go the opposite direction of the majority of folks with a CA. We'll see. |
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 4:16pm |
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Best I can tell from the plow frames parts book is that there was only one plow frame per plow model and that the three hitches all bolted to the same frame. I believe the plow order from a farmer had at least four pieces. First the frame, then the hitch, then the bottoms, and then the accessories like coulters.
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CA52
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Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 8:33am |
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I looked at the plow this morning, it has a welded frog and welded draw rod bracket. I went through the plow book and printed off the pages with the pertinent parts.
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 9:21am |
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Gerald I notice that his coulters don't seem to be set very deep just like mine, as if mine are worn out or are the wrong ones. When we were farming Dad always had me set them where the cutting depth was only about 1 1/2" above the shear. It left a lot cleaner furrow than mine does now. So I was thinking of making a set that are a lot bigger around. What do you think?
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Bill Long
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Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 9:54am |
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I loved to plow with the CA and the plow you have - the 52. You will find it to be a "neat" plowing tractor that will do you a very good job.
I did not get a good look at the cultivators but can assure you they will do a very excellent job. Hope you got the mounting items - the bracket in front of the radiator cowl, the adjustment levers, the final drive brackets. Many times they are left on the tractor. In any event looks like you will have much enjoyment with your new implements. By the way I sold Allis Chalmers equipment for my father but my knowledge of the plow was put to shame by Gerald J's remarks. Deep research and information. Usually the dealer ordered the plow with attachments for the area and the customer brough it. Did not have a problem with that. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 10:43am |
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I have any pin hitch parts you may need, as well as some plow bottom parts, or the entire 1 1/2 plows. If you want parts I could ship them.
I'm in Fenton, the one in MI! ![]() I'm planning on cutting them up and going to the scrap yard this spring! |
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 1:07pm |
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Coulter blades do wear and came in different sizes. Generally the round mounting shank was plenty long to allow setting them fairly close to the tip of the shares. The closer to the tip of the shares the more they get clogged when plowing corn stalks. So some plowers would prefer they didn't go so deep in the ground. Plows can work without coulters, just they don't cut as smooth a left side of the furrow especially in sod and sometimes the plow pulls harder. But when the coulter fills the space between the coulter and the moldboard left side with corn stalks that plow pulls very hard too. It can be a pain to have to stop and unclog that space every 500 feet. Moving the coulter forward and up can help slow the clogging. Allis coulters are very adjustable.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 1:30pm |
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CA52 sorry to have broken in on your post. Maybe I can help you somewhere along the line.
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CA52
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Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 9:57am |
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Bill,
The gentleman I bought the plow and cultivator from had two complete sets of cultivators. The one I bought was mounted on his tractor at the time of the sale, and he was very thorough to include all the parts. There was a gentleman in Ashton, IL that owned Weishaar Implement. He was of great help back when I was going through the D17. Sadly he has passed now. |
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Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 9:58am |
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No worries, your question helped both of us.
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