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    Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 7:54pm
Here in northeast missouri the persimmon trees on my property do not have any persimmons on them. I am disapointed because this is how I judge our oncoming winter. Have a good night, Gary
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We have some persimmons in SWMO that are already ripe, which is shocking to me. I haven't personally cut any seeds but those I've heard of down here are seeing a lot of spoons
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i didn't have any aronia berries this year due to a late frost this spring
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Around here persimmons are just about gone this time of year .
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Shameless. That means you can point your machine further south in Missouri this year and skip northeast missouri. Spoons mean snow. LOL. Have a good day.Gary
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Have a relative abundance of Persimmon on the farm
Have two in wye shot of the house in cemetery and a half dozen along the drive
Several dozen scattered thru the drainage bottom by the barn

One point I was puzzled by finding the fruit along the driveway and no tree noted until finally figured out the tree is 12-15” across and close to 60’ tall!!
Fruit is 30’ up in the canopy!!
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Used to be alot around these parts. But during the seventies they got cut to make golf club heads up. True Temper made gazillions of them.
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I have a set of Wilson’s
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Does it take two trees to get a fruit ?
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Believe are self pollenating.
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We used to have a couple in the front yard when I was a kid... they were as much seeds as fruit, but delicious when ripe... ... ... if you bit into one that was not completly ripe, it would pukker you up enough to whistle forever... peace,
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We have 2 groves of trees about 30 foot apart with about 15 to 20 trees in each group. 
All the trees in one grove have fruit on the trees and not one tree in the other grove has ever had fruit on them.  Den

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We have several down on the bottom of our property. They haven’t produced well for a few years. Don’t know what makes them produce or not but it sure varies.
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I was told only the female trees have permissions .
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Generally. Persimmon trees are either Male (pink flowers) or female (white flowers). A tree can have rarely have both sexes, that is a transpersimmon.
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Where are you Gary...I'm just north of Bowlingreen ....I have quit a few of these trees and they are loaded...and ripe...kinda early but they are...and some of the trees dont have any leaves on them...but lots of fruit...never seen that before....deer love the things too..lol

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is the wood good in a smoker?
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Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

Generally. Persimmon trees are either Male (pink flowers) or female (white flowers). A tree can have rarely have both sexes, that is a transpersimmon.

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Self-pollination

 
 

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One type of automatic self-pollination occurs in the orchid Ophrys apifera. One of the two pollinia bends itself towards the stigma.
One type of automatic self-pollination occurs in the orchid Ophrys apifera. One of the two pollinia bends itself towards the stigma.

Self-pollination is when pollen from the same plant arrives at the stigma of a flower (in flowering plants) or at the ovule (in gymnosperms). There are two types of self-pollination: in autogamy, pollen is transferred to the stigma of the same flower; in geitonogamy, pollen is transferred from the anther of one flower to the stigma of another flower on the same flowering plant, or from microsporangium to ovule within a single (monoecious) gymnosperm. Some plants have mechanisms that ensure autogamy, such as flowers that do not open (cleistogamy), or stamens that move to come into contact with the stigma. The term selfing that is often used as a synonym, is not limited to self-pollination, but also applies to other types of self-fertilization.

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Hey Gary! How accurate has the persimmon seeds been in forecasting winter? Is it that reliable?
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

is the wood good in a smoker?

I use it when green and like it a lot.
A little soft and burns like soft wood when dry.
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I have had this a few yeaars and it has never bloomed one year it froze off and can back from the roots.
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Ocharry. I am southwest of bowling green about15 milesw. Close to Gazette
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Steve MC/il  It is an old timers saying about the seeds in persimmon
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Dang Gary...we is almost neighbors.... We might have to meet up in BG for a coffee sometime

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Originally posted by Gary(MO) Gary(MO) wrote:

Steve MC/il  It is an old timers saying about the seeds in persimmon

I Know what it is.....that isn't what I asked you. Read it again. You said you use it to tell winter...... how's that panned out¿

Edited by SteveM C/IL - 02 Oct 2020 at 10:01pm
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SteveM C/IL I don't really know. I have seen seeds with spoons,forks,knife at different years but some of the mild winters I seen spoons with little snow. I think it could an old timers conversation piece. Gary 
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ocharry. Sounds good. Gary
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so no persimmons means NO Winter ?????Big smile
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late freeze got mine this spring too and had no fruit this year either
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