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    Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 8:13am
Ok I am going to repaint my tractor.What does everyone do to the casting part the old paint is on very good should I just paint over it or do I need to prime it and then paint.I can sandblast it first to but am afraid of getting into the casting compartments.The grill hoods fenders and all other parts that come off have been sandblasted and primed so they are already to paint.
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At the very least if you’re going to paint over it, make sure to remove any loose paint then clean with wax and grease remover then primer.
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Dave,
 Many many options here. I have done some of each. I like to at least wire brush all of the casting areas. And as mentioned clean the grease from all the nooks and crannies. That may be the toughest part. Cleaning, cleaning and more cleaning. But if you do, the new paint will stick and look good for a long time! I have been using paint stripper and aggressive wire brushing, going down to the bare castings. Then primer, then top coats. It is a LOT of work, and takes a lot of time., But I really like the results.
Sounds like your sheet metal is all set which is really the parts you see and the castings will always be a rougher casting look. So your almost there.
Some pictures please!:) What series tractor?
 Good luck with your prep work and painting.
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Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Sep 2020 at 8:43am
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Take everything off you can,wrap anything rubber,plastic or glass in tin foil, spray the whole thing with a heavy coat of over cleaner & let it soak until it kinda gets crusty then take a sprayer full of vinegar and hit it again. Let it soak then power wash everything off real good. Blow it off with air and immediately get a coat of primer on it. Leave the tin foil on everything you don't want paint on. I've found this way about the quickest and most efficient to remove old dirt,grease,oil,etc, it WILL melt plastic and rubber and keep it off your skin and eyes.
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Oven cleaner, not over cleaner.
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I've tried needle scaling and abrasive (coal sl*g) blasting.  Needle scaling is slow and hard on the operator, but can be done in-doors without a lot of masking.  Abrasive blasting with a decent pressure type blaster on the right days is quicker and provides the best results (IMO), but you are absolutely right about the media getting where you don't want it (applies to both the tractor and you).
 
The quality of paint job you're going for is another factor to consider.  A $70 paint job vs. a $700 paint job may change the approach.
 
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Scrape, degrease, wire brush, scrape with a chisel to knock off any high spots or flaky paint, sand by hand (I'm old school) - 220 grit is my favorite, degrease, prime x2 and paint x 4.  Tape up any parts you don't want painted.  A complete teardown will always give better results.  Replace all exterior gaskets and O rings before paint too.  Nothing worse than finding a leak after paint!

My current project...



That is all I will show until it is completely finished.  A good job takes time.

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