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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

They "call" it a 1/2 ton, dare you to look up the specs on a 5 year old "150" vrs. a 15-20 year old "150" WinkWink . I've been told by several independent shops that the 1-2-3 '50 series have dropped in "hauling/suspension" ratings by "1". A current F 150 has the same "rating" as a Lincoln Navigator CryCry

And I don't recall ever asking about "MAX" pressure in my original post OuchOuch ?? The upcoming election has gotten you in a tizzy SmileSmile

Your very first post/question asked about the sidewall versus the sticker. So asking about MAX pressure is EXACTLY what you did, you just didn't know it.
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Thanks for the clarification T, I didn't realize the sidewall psi was "max". As it turns out, the the door well sticker and the side wall psi are 10 psi apart OuchOuch ??

Edited by FREEDGUY - 13 Oct 2020 at 6:32pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tbone95 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2020 at 6:42am
That's a common spread of those two numbers. Assuming the sidewall is the higher!    If not that'd be interesting.
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The door sticker numbers are for the ORIGINAL tires from the factory, so ONLY applicable to whatever brand and size and type those were.
Change the tires and the sticker spec is no longer valid.
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You beat me to it Jay. I was just gonna say thing.
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Yes. but even from the FACTORY the numbers dont have to match... We have a FLEX that has tires RATED at 1800 pounds each at 51 psi.... the door sticker says set at 36 psi and 1600 pound load.. No reason to set the tires at MAX 51 psi.... 1800 x 4 = WAY MORE than the GVW of that vehicle..... with factory tires.
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Yes. but even from the FACTORY the numbers dont have to match... We have a FLEX that has tires RATED at 1800 pounds each at 51 psi.... the door sticker says set at 36 psi and 1600 pound load.. No reason to set the tires at MAX 51 psi.... 1800 x 4 = WAY MORE than the GVW of that vehicle..... with factory tires.

100% agree.
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One thing being ignored here is the rating of the wheel, all oem wheels have a max load and pressure stamped on them, regardless of what the tire or the truck says, these are do not exceed numbers that usually will coincide with the door sticker of the vehicle.
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While it may seem like the tire co knows more, the correct answer is go by the door sticker. The manufacturer spends years testing and developing the vehicle to find the best vehicle performance and tire pressure reflects this. The tire co just builds tires to carry a load. Since their tires fit many different vehicles, that's why they have a maximum air pressure. You can put 20 ply tires on a 1/2 ton and air them up to maximum, but that doesn't increase the load capacity of the truck 1 ounce. All you're doing is making your vehicle ride rougher. 
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So your saying if the door tag says 50# and the tires say 35#, we should air them to 50#?
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Don’t think he’s saying that, he’s a smart guy and mechanic. Seems if the door says 50 and you bought tires with 35 max you done bought the wrong tires.
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Originally posted by Brian Jasper co. Ia Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:

While it may seem like the tire co knows more, the correct answer is go by the door sticker. The manufacturer spends years testing and developing the vehicle to find the best vehicle performance and tire pressure reflects this. The tire co just builds tires to carry a load. Since their tires fit many different vehicles, that's why they have a maximum air pressure. You can put 20 ply tires on a 1/2 ton and air them up to maximum, but that doesn't increase the load capacity of the truck 1 ounce. All you're doing is making your vehicle ride rougher. 
LMAO !!! That's my take on the "Citiots" version of a P/U, a "LOADED -OUT Ford  F150 WinkWink that "might" have a sectional sofa in the "possibly" 6' bed LOL
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The problem with following the door sticker, is that it's for the ORIGINAL tires put onto that truck. More often that not, owners put different tires and rims onto their rides. I'd like a 'straw pole' to see how many put the EXACT same tires on their rides.
 I know I've NEVER put OEM tires on ANY of my rides when I replaced rubber, not in 50 years.
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

The problem with following the door sticker, is that it's for the ORIGINAL tires put onto that truck. More often that not, owners put different tires and rims onto their rides. I'd like a 'straw pole' to see how many put the EXACT same tires on their rides.
 I know I've NEVER put OEM tires on ANY of my rides when I replaced rubber, not in 50 years.
Why not ??
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I dont think i have ever put the "factory" brand of tires back on a truck since 1989... My F250 came with Michelens and got 80K miles on the original tires, so i did that again... You normally put the same SIZE tires back on the truck, but not necessarily the same BRAND.  Factory is installing what they bought in BULK and got the BEST DEAL on that year.
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Originally posted by Brian Jasper co. Ia Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:

While it may seem like the tire co knows more, the correct answer is go by the door sticker. The manufacturer spends years testing and developing the vehicle to find the best vehicle performance and tire pressure reflects this. The tire co just builds tires to carry a load. Since their tires fit many different vehicles, that's why they have a maximum air pressure. You can put 20 ply tires on a 1/2 ton and air them up to maximum, but that doesn't increase the load capacity of the truck 1 ounce. All you're doing is making your vehicle ride rougher. 


I agree Brian. That is how I have always figured it was also.
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Exactly... you always have BETTER rated tires on a vehicle than the door stick says... Would be stupid to put under rated tires on.
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Seems as long as the same size, load, and speed range match original, sticker pressure would still be correct.
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Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

So your saying if the door tag says 50# and the tires say 35#, we should air them to 50#?
if your door tag says 50 and your tires say 35, that means you put a tire on that can’t handle the weight of your truck. In other words you have the wrong tire for the vehicle.
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Originally posted by Brian Jasper co. Ia Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:

Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

So your saying if the door tag says 50# and the tires say 35#, we should air them to 50#?
if your door tag says 50 and your tires say 35, that means you put a tire on that can’t handle the weight of your truck. In other words you have the wrong tire for the vehicle.


I was just using that as an example, that not all tires are created equal.
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True, all tires aren’t created equal, but putting heavier tires than the originals doesn’t increase your payload. You’re still carrying the same weight so increasing air pressure only stiffens the ride.
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First off, what's all this talk about a door sticker, the only one I ever saw says lock/unlock.

Secondly, when my sidewalls look too squaty I just add a little air till they look, you know kinda right.

Thirdly,  who in there right mind would ever waste money on a tire psi gauge, I've been told by more than one person that every gauge reads different. What a waste of money!

And lastly, if anyone takes my advice on tires and is as stupid as me then I'm not responsible for the fate of there rubber. Wink
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re: Just remember the valve stem caps are a RIGHT hand thread!

dang, a Chrysler300 I drove had  LEFT handed nuts on the left side..
..wonder what the valve stems were on THOSE tires ????Confused
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