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alleyyooper 
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 Posted: 16 Jul 2016 at 6:01am |
On my road none of the pictured mail boxes would last a month. Lake people down the road never taught their kids respect of others property. Most set back off the road a lane, most have some type of amour around them and since they will wrap a chain around the post many have steel post set in concrete. Mine is 4x4 steel post set 5' down in the ground with 6 inches of concrete at the bottom of the hole and red clay nearly to the top and 8 inches of concrete finishes the post off. Box is 3/16 plate steel, has a list to it after the Fed X driver backed into it bending the bumper of the truck and folding it into the box. Yes it sets off the road a whole lane and a half too. Makes it just like if they run off the road and hit a tree.  
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alleyyooper
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Posted: 16 Jul 2016 at 6:14am |
Those above wouldn't last a month on my road. Mine is 4x4 steel post buried 5' in concrete, 3/16 plate steel set back off the road. Yes it dose have a list to it. Fex X driver backed his truck into it folding the bumper into the right side sheet metal. that is what you need on my road. snow plow leaves the pile about 2footin front of it.  Al
Edited by alleyyooper - 16 Jul 2016 at 6:15am
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 11:50am |
 BenGiBoy wrote:
DonDittmar wrote:
Gerald I love the Cen-Pe-Co drum. Dont see em like that around here
Most people in N Michigan build there mail box posts with a spring so if plowed snow hits it it will swing away Post has to give too. If someone runs off the road and the post doesnt give way and they hit it you are liable.... |
That is weird.....they are the ones that drove off the road! |
I agree, but most of the time the mail box is not on your property, if its alongside the road its in the right-of-way. In an accident, say the road is icy, and someone slides off the road and you have a post that doesnt shear off and they hit it and it causes injury, they can sue you. If you look at wooden sign posts along side federal highway you will see they are a standard treated 4x6. About a foot or so up you will see about a 2" hole drilled through the post. This is the shear point..........
Years ago there was a guy about 10 miles from the house that was having trouble with the local youth running over his mail box. So he set is post in the ground, but about 2 inches deep he welded a big piece of 1/4 plate to it. Next time they hit it post went over, plate stood up and hung them up right there. CAUGHT red handed. They sued the homeowner for car damages and won. Homeowner had to pay for damage done to underside of vehicle caused by the plate...............
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BenGiBoy
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 7:37pm |
Don, that is interesting. Oh, that makes some sense, I didn't think of the fact that it isn't on your property actually.
It still amazes me at what people can get sued for and the people that sued win.....
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alleyyooper
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Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 3:47am |
Shoot here in Michigan they can loose control for going to fast go 100yrds into your lawn and hit a shade tree sue you and win. It is not funny but the truth. And those kids again got away with driving over the fellows mail box even though caught red handed. Some judge would say they were sowing their wild oats, Never mind the cost and work for you to fix their mess. Al
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Lonn
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Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 6:59am |
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Technically, at least here in MN, you own the land up to the center of the road but you gave up the right of way to that land, voluntarily or by force or court order. Either way, in our county or maybe the entire state, if you even have an old fence line that been in the same spot for a hundred years but 1 inche into the right of way, you can be sued if someone gets hurt when or if they hit that fence. Some farmers on back roads still fence in the ditch for cattle during the summer but in today's lawsuit happy society, they are playing with fire. It doesn't matter if the accident was their fault, you are still going to be judge liable by today's courts.
We had a local farmer who had always fenced in his ditches ever since I can remember but one of his neighbor's didn't like him and turned him in. In the end the Sheriff and a couple deputies stood guard while the county-hired fence builders moved his still hot fence out of the right of way. They put a very nice fence up with wood poles and 4 or 5 strands of high tensile wire. They did it with the farmer standing on one side with his herd of cattle right there and deputies standing on the other side. They didn't have a court order to enter the property to turn off the electric fence but the fencing people were able to get it done anyhow. Then the county added cost of the fence to the farmer's property tax. Dad was forced to be there too because he sat on the township board at the time.
There are still farmers around who fence in the ditches but they must have more agreeable neighbors because no one has made a fuss about them yet. BTW the fencing is the small light 3/8" round posts and 16 gauge wire that really would never cause much problem if you hit it but I suppose a 1500# cow might. The price of living in a commie state.
Edited by Lonn - 20 Jul 2016 at 7:00am
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 7:16am |
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The farms mailbox is mounted to a 12" piece of electric pole. Been that way for 50 years. If someone hit's it and wants to sue, well that's what insurance is for. Sure as heck will not change it now.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 12:15pm |
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I like it. If it had a deck on it I would say you wouldn't even have to mow around your mailbox lol, but I see yours is on concrete.
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