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    Posted: 23 Jun 2012 at 12:37pm
I just bought an old allis chalmers tractor. The previous owner thought it was a 1957. I do not see any tag giving a year or model. It is a 4 cyl., gas.,tricycle front, 4speed w/ hi and lo. How can I tell what year and model it is. I would like to get a manual, but there seems to be a lot of diff. models.  Thanks Gregg
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Post a picture on here. If it has the power director( high forward, neutral , middle and low  at back) it's a D series tractor first ones were made in 57.
 Tractor number is stamped on the left side torque tube (bell housing) flange under the air cleaner. That number and the chart on this site will tell you the model and year of production.
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welcome to the site. Whatever you need to know about Allis Chalmers, just ask. Someone on here will be able to help you out. Darrel
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I found the numbers 149-5963M, stamped on the engine block left side rear under the air cleaner. Not sure if this is the serial number.
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That's the motor number, 149 means it is likely a D-14.  The serial number should be same place, but on the torque tube, 1 inch to the back side of the motor#.
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Thanks, you guys know your stuff. I had to brush off a little dirt and found the numbers,D14 6093 just where you said it would be. Thanks
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I guess what I have here is a 1957 D14. That should help me find a manual for it.
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I think the D14 would be a great tractor to haveSmile From now on, the ORANGE bug will get in your system and you'll end up with a bunch more to go with itThumbs Up
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Gregg,   Welcome to the Forum.  It is a delight to hear that you have a 1957 D-14.  The tractor my father was selling when I came home from my two year stint in the Army.  The fact that it is a tricycle makes it even more interesting to me. 
Let us know how we can be of service.  It will be our pleasure.
Good Luck!
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welcome to the forum. gregg
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WELCOME TO THE FORUM, Greg
D-14 is a great little tractor, with lotsa power. You can have a lot of fun with it and maybe do some work also. Bob
 
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Great little tractor for raking hay or mowing.  
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Welcome to the forum. FIL has a D14, great tractor.
We have to watch what we call old. When I told him that his D14 was old it shocked him, he never thought of it as being an antique.  LOL
The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend?
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Welcome Greg -- How dose it run? what are your planes for it? this is a great sit with lots of help !! Keep us posted.
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I used my tractor for the first time tonight. We were out antiquing and someone had two large concrete deer for the yard. It took 4 of us to load each one in my truck. My wife said that was great but how are we going to unload them. I said we will use the allis chalmers to unload them since I have a boom attachment. When we got home I was able to pick the deer up with ease and set them where we wanted them.  My wife said the old tractor earned her keep.
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Originally posted by gregg gregg wrote:

I used my tractor for the first time tonight. We were out antiquing and someone had two large concrete deer for the yard. It took 4 of us to load each one in my truck. My wife said that was great but how are we going to unload them. I said we will use the allis chalmers to unload them since I have a boom attachment. When we got home I was able to pick the deer up with ease and set them where we wanted them.  My wife said the old tractor earned her keep.


Were they John Deeres?
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 Jane  and  John  Deer
 
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I was wondering how much air pressure should I have in the tires on my D-14, front and rear? It has the tricycle front end. Thanks
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Gregg, I have a 1957 D-14 and it is one of my favorites. Used it tonight to unload hay. It is very useful. If you can get traction it will try to pull just about anything. Love those allis govenors.
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Gregg, no more than 20 pounds in the rear tires.  Fronts you can put up to 30.
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12-14 in the rear and 28 in the front.
Great tractor. Bob
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I second the 12-14 in the rear.Just enough to make it set up on the tread.Carrying heavy load or plowing may require more but might not.
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Originally posted by gregg gregg wrote:



I was wondering how much air pressure should I have in the tires on my D-14, front and rear? It has the tricycle front end. Thanks


Do you have a true tricycle front end? One front wheel or two fronts close to one another? Just curious.
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