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JK in Pa 
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 3:47pm |
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Looking at getting a 849 model baler. The old chain and pipe style. Appearance is way above normal. Would be used on small hobby farm. Any input appreciated.
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Tim NH
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 8:23pm |
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I have a 848 model. Has the same chain and tubes. Its always worked good for me the last 30 years. Tim
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Red Bank
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 8:36pm |
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I have a 846. I like it. I wished it would bale a tighter bale. But it will anything.
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AllisFreak MN
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 8:41pm |
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I have a low hour 849 and like it. Works good enough for us hobby farmers.
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allisbred
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 9:02pm |
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What are you doing with the hay? For feeding steers and storing bales inside, should be fine. If you are planning on outside storage, I’d recommend something with a solid core. We really like Vermeer’s even the older models.
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victoryallis
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 9:29pm |
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A HUGE HUGE difference exists quality of bales made by balers unless you have the serious coin to buy a late baler I’d hire a local with a nice late model baler.
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Alex (wi)
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:34pm |
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My 1980 Vermeer 605 F makes a nice tight bale. For $1000, it didn’t take long for it to pay for itself verses having it hired done.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 8:29am |
I've run NH chain balers for about 40 years think we got the first one around 1980,as mentioned they won't make as neat of a bale as some of the belt balers.But they do have their advantages for me.They are easy to operate will bale anything with no problem starting a bale,they don't burn,easy to work on if needed.A lot of people that owned them didn't know how to run them,to make a good bale that's reasonably tight I rake as large of a windrow as I can straddle with the tractor give it some good throttle and run slow ground speed which
gives the baler time to pack the hay and don't skimp on the twine.I bale between 300 and 400 bales a year with my NH 851 balers.I can't see spending big $$$$ on a baler to feed beef cattle these days as I can buy those NH balers these days for $300 to $500.
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victoryallis
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 8:46am |
 Alex (wi) wrote:
My 1980 Vermeer 605 F makes a nice tight bale. For $1000, it didn’t take long for it to pay for itself verses having it hired done. |
Find me a $1000 net wrap baler that put wrap over the edges like a rb450 and I’ll agree. A $2000 Gleaner K will combine corn the same as a Super 7 just slower a $1000 Vermeer will not make the same bale as a $60,000 Krone or $45,000 RB 450. Plus wrap and fuel cost more. If I could get my custom baler at the snap of a finger I’d never own a baler.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:07am |
Alex (wi) wrote:
My 1980 Vermeer 605 F makes a nice tight bale. For $1000, it didn’t take long for it to pay for itself verses having it hired done. |
Totally agree. Got my 605F for $700. Put on a couple new splice connectors on it, rebolted one loose pickup pipe pivot end, got a free operators manual from Vermeer, read & studied manual, visited with excellent local Vermeer dealer about it, & then enjoyed trouble free baling of my own hay. I’ve heard good things about NH 85_ chain balers too. But my hay gets stored outside, so I didn’t go NH. Maybe heavily weigh your baler choice per your best local dealer? My local dealer knows them well, offers good advise per servicing issues, & usually has crucial items in stock. That’s a big help. Wishing you well on whatever you decide. PS, My first baler was a MF 560(Vermeer 605c) & grew to hate it. It was an older (1974?) “closed throat” round baler. Right behind it’s pickup, it had a rubberized roller running against a bare metal roller. Maybe it’s rubber was too old & hardened too much, but I could not adjust it enough to feed evenly. An egg shaped bale core isn’t fun. @#€””!!
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allisbred
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:11am |
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I have not figured out why the net wrap is so desirable in the hay industry if storing bales inside ( a little cheaper yes).I have an old Vermeer I Silage Baler that starts easy, bales consistently nice, tight bales with twine and will bale anything (not as fast as the later pro series). If selling hay, customers want the net. I don’t like the mess of plastic, I use 9000 biodegradable for myself. My father still uses a Vermeer super G, a little slower than me, but makes the same basic quality, noting that we do not use preserver on anything. I believe NH & JD were just a few years behind Vermeer on the engineering so any Baler made in the late 80’s and newer should be decent belt Baler’s. I would say it depends on what you are doing with the hay and buy the best technology you can afford.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:46am |
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I loved my chain baler. Wish I could find another in great shape. Tough balers. Keep lots oil handy. Drive slow and lots string and it will make nice bales.
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:52am |
Depends on where you are at and how you will store them. I buy out, so I walk up to the bale and stab my hand in between layers. If it's been baled tight and I can't get my hand (fingers) between layers, I know the fella made tight bales that will store better outside but we get far less rain than most areas of the country. 2 or even 3 year old hay will have green hay 2-3" in if baled good and tight in this area and that is bales stored outside. If baled loose, they just don't weather well. Add twine wrap and it weathers even worse and those I call "marshmallow bales", avoided unless no other hay available. I'll take net wrap any day as i don't like dealing with string period. Not worth it to have the equipment for my smaller acreage so when I find a supplier that makes good tight bales that uses net wrap, sprayed for weeds/fertilizedso i don't spread junk on my place, I will gladly pay the asking price and be glad for it. Seems JD balers are the most used in this area but still see the occasional NH or Vermeer in use, but MF also seems to be gaining market share. Running jokes about how many JD units that have gone up in flames and contract baler used by neighbor burned just last year . . . .
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JK in Pa
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 10:12am |
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Thanks for the really good input, fellow AC men. I passed on the baler. Pictures were a lot nicer than baler appearance. Thanks again.
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