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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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Just wondering if anyone had any experience with a vac case? Iv found one pretty cheap and sence my grandpa farmed with on it got me kinda interested in it. Iv alwase assumed that they was pretty much equivalent to a b or c allis but, looking at there stats on tractor data it looks like they mite be a little heavier. Kinda wondeing what to expect out of one before i go look at it. Thanks Wil
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mintenfarmer ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 22 May 2015 Location: Minnesota Points: 191 |
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The rear tires are bigger on a vac than a b or c allis tractor. I've drove both but can't say as to which is better because the vac I drove need a clutch and was easy to kill taking off which gave me a bad taste for em. However they are a simple tractor and I would buy one if I didn't already have 3 small allis tractors
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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Well like i said frist i wouldnt be very interested if it wasnt for the fact that grandpa had one, and i got what left of it. I never seen it run but i sit on it sevral hr pretending i was doing something
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Reindeer ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Calgary, AB Points: 650 |
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Learned to drive tractor on a VAC Case when I was about 8. Not a bad small tractor. Foot throttle was handy. Once you got really good you could speed shift the square cut gears..... They did make a mounted 2 bottom plow system and internal hydraulics for it, but no draft control. Reasonable small tractor.
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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That about all that was left fo grandpaws that i have. Is the rearend with that funky hitch and plow. |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8447 |
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I've heard lots of good things about the VAC and VAC-14, including the ones already mentioned.
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kenbob ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2017 Location: Smithville Mo Points: 162 |
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I guess I am the guy to weigh in as I have both a VAC with Eagle hitch and a CA. The CA has more power I am sure. Part of it is the Allis governor/throttle response is better than almost any tractor I have experienced. (Guess that is why they are on all those carnival rides). I like to say the CA is over engineered and underbuilt. The VAC is underengineered but overbuilt. The CA proudly boasts of no grease zirks. The VAC has lots. When new the Allis was a superior tractor. When old, it seems the VAC is a lot less prone to leakage, and as far as my tractor is concerned gives me less trouble. VAC without the Eagle hitch aren't worth more than about $800. With and in good shape, $1200. A completely restored one would be hard to bring $2000 I think. The CA is a hotrod. The VAC is built in the clunky Case style. They made 150000 vac's so it isn't hard to find someone who grew up driving one. Except for their lack of power, I have never heard a bad thing about them. The Vac is listed as an 8mph tractor. I think those tests were done with 28's. Later ones like mine had 34's, so they are faster, but probably not tractor ride fast. I prefer my VAC because it is slower in lower gears too. My odd 2acre plot has no garden runs more than 100 ft and I appreciate the slowness for that.
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kenbob ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2017 Location: Smithville Mo Points: 162 |
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I will add an example of repairs: Both of mine are narrow front end. Both leak out the bottom of the pedestal. The Allis I had no choice but to fix as with the lighter lubricants you could top it off one day and it would all be on the garage floor the next. The Vac takes gear grease. Yes, it pushes out the bottom, but you can wipe it off, give it a couple squirts and go on.
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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kenbob ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2017 Location: Smithville Mo Points: 162 |
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It is the perfect tractor for fooling around! It is easier to get on and off than the Allis, especially for those in the geezer class like myself. It is my go to tractor for lots of different things.
I am not experienced with the lifts on non_Eagle hitch tractors. THey had a hydraulic system and before that a mechanical lift, I think. That looks like what you got. Forgot to mention on my tractor the hydraulics that run the eagle hitch are run off a pump at the front of the tractor rather than the back like an Allis so I have live hydraulics any time the tractor is running. That is nice.
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Alex09(WI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 2012 Location: CECIL WI Points: 1725 |
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I have owned multiple Allis C and CAs and one 1951 Case VAC tractor, I would take the VAC anytime over a C or CA Allis. You can't compare a VAC with 3pt hitch to an Allis C or B. A C Allis would compare to a VAC without 3pt, but a CA Allis would compare to the VAC with eagle hitch 3pt. Case started offering the 3pt Eagle hitch in 1948.
My VAC had 11.2-34" rear tires, narrow front, eagle hitch (3pt) and fresh engine rebuild. pros of the VAC: foot throttle, very handy can learn to speed shift with foot throttle better gear selection (4 gears) better road speed (mine went 16mph) independent hydraulics 3pt hitch disk brakes better operator platform more weight built heavier can pull mounted 2-14s in 2nd, 3rd in sand Pros of the Allis CA: slower reverse speed sits lower to the ground hand clutch for live PTO traction booster draft control easier on gas easier to remove the battery better governor Parts are easy to find for both tractors in my area. If I had needed live pto I might like the CA better but if you don't need it, I would go with the VAC with 3pt |
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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I also learned to drive a tractor that was the VAC Case. we used that tractor everyday for spraying, packing corn, running an auger, running a belt drive elevator, pulling wagons, the best little jockey/chore tractor we had at the time. ours was pretty powerful for its size. pulled a lot of hay wagons hooked together and were stacked 11 high. a brother used to coast it down hills on the road to get to the other farms faster. one day he was in 3rd gear and got to going to fast and popped the clutch back out and shattered that gear in the tranny! dad drained that rear end, washed it out and put the plug back in, filled with gear grease, and it was like that the rest of it's life. just missing that one gear. I built a platform on the back, used it to go camping in the forested hills of our area, it carried all the camping supplies. I was also chased by a train on some back woods rail road tracks one day. the rear tires would fit outside the rails and I could move to other fields quicker by going down the tracks than by taking the roads. we did have to wait for the daily train to pass first. it did, and off I went, for some reason there was a 2nd train that day! PffffT! the engineer was laughing his azz off and tooting the horn behind me! I couldn't get off the tracks til I came to a crossing! whew! yeah...that foot throttle was handy!
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29792 |
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Dad's first tractor he owned was a VAC he bought from his Dad when his Dad, Grandpa Lindquist, owned an independent repair shop up at Paynesville MN. Grandpa brought it down to Dad and sold it to him cheap. Dad says it had good power but otherwise he thought it was an average tractor. The tractor never ran right though. It would quit at random. In the mean time Dad bought a WC and sold the VAC to a friend who had fought with making the tractor run right and finally removed the fuel tank and found it had pieces of wooden shingles floating in it. Since the fuel tank was baffled you could not see the junk in there. What sold Dad on going with Allis was when he bought a WD45. Dad grew up on a DC Case and an M Farmall, a Super M and a Super C. Both Supers were new at the time. But he is still an all Allis man at 78 years young.
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alan-nj ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: oxford, nj Points: 847 |
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had one of those hitches laying around for a long time....never knew what it was from..!
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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Wow i never thought id get this much traffic. Im going to try to end up with it. Only thing holding me up is sick youngsters right know.
![]() Its funny everone compare a vac and a ca, because a buddy drop of his ca for me to get running a few days ago and this moring he told me to price it lol. Mite end up with both! |
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SteveMaskey(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wellsville, MO Points: 606 |
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I had one years ago, run and drove good, liked the foot throttle, had the eagle hitch which was good. Now the bad, not a lot of power and the brakes were terrible. A co worker wanted it so I sold it to him
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 3008 |
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We had both a CA and VAC at the same time back in the 60's on the farm and I'd take a
CA 2x over a VAC,but its all what you like. |
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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Well the vac got passed me. I though i had appointment to look at it this morning. I had talked to him tuesday about looking at it but apently someone was in front of me. Owell there be another one along.
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kenbob ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2017 Location: Smithville Mo Points: 162 |
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Maybe you were meant to have the ca
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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Lol tell the wife. She dosnt think i need it bc it was mine once, and it worce shape than when i sold it. Wich for me means it need my attention and care to her it means that much less that she mite get for vacation fund lol.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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was at the elevator yesterday, and by golly, they have a VAC Case tractor with a loader and rear blade they use around the property. didn't look to see how the rear blade was mounted. but it's the first one I've ever seen with a loader on one!
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5957 |
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The VA series that SHOULD have a loader, is the VAI... industrial... heavy front axle. Just so happens I have a VAI frontend and steering... and two parts VACs. I could build up one good machine from it all, but kinda have my hands full with other projects right now.
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Wdtractorman ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Kentucky Points: 975 |
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If you was a closer i would be
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