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LB0442 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Dec 2014 Location: Boise ID Points: 767 |
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I was going by Nyssa tractor salvage and thought I would stop in to see if they had any new orange, nope no luck on that. This was setting out front, you don't see them too often so I thought I would snap a few pictures. I did not go back in and ask them what they wanted for it. Could probably call if you were interested.
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AaronSEIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2564 |
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I'd love a 1468. 1066 is on my bucket list. AaronSEIA
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 33146 |
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By appearance of stacks this is a custom build not factory.
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MattLF9 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Points: 187 |
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My neighbors had a 1568 when I was a little kid.
They got rid of it 20+ years ago when they were worthless, now they are worth a small fortune. |
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A little CQB never hurt anybody.
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steelwheelAcjim ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Location: Blissfield,Mi Points: 1257 |
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Quite a collectors item by IH fans. Not the best track record when they were used for farming. Neighbor had one that threw a rod out of it, fixed it, then threw another rod. Traded it for a 50 series JD. Looks like a good survivor tractor. Personally, I would rather have a 1468. You don't get the planetary transmission, and open-station was standard. they look better to me as a fender tractor. All 1568's were cab tractors. Any without a cab aren't factory.
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Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires!
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PaulB ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4933 |
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Ford fans love those raggedy arse V-8s Those 550s were the predecessors to all the Ford P/U V-8s
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Boss Man ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 03 Mar 2018 Location: Greenleaf, WI Points: 617 |
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They weren't real popular and when the motor went a lot had DT466's stuck in them because it was cheaper and more grunt
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AaronSEIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2564 |
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It's factory. The 68 series was a 550 V8. 66 was a 414 or 436 for the 10/1466. Pretty sought after, but the straight 6 was a much better engine. AaronSEIA
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steelwheelAcjim ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Location: Blissfield,Mi Points: 1257 |
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Agree. The frames are form fitted to the engine. If you replaced the V-8 with a Six cylinder, you had to get the Six cylinder frame rails. |
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Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires!
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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in the magazine "farm and ranch" someone put a 3208 cat v-8 in a IH 706, it looks really good.
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steelwheelAcjim ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Location: Blissfield,Mi Points: 1257 |
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About 12 or 13 years ago, a friend of mine was at an auction that had two of them on the farm. The auctioneer offered choice out before he started selling them. My friend was bidding and asked me which one he should take if he won the bid. I told him take them both and I would buy one from him. He didn't bid enough so the rest is history. They sold for around $5000 back then. Hindsight.
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Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires!
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Joe(TX) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682 |
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They were not very efficient on fuel consumption. The same HP 6 cylinders were more economical. I still like them for the sound.
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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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MattLF9 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Points: 187 |
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Ok before we get anything started here, we know V type engines are just as good as their 6 cylinder counterpart, just look at Scania, MTU, MAN, GE and EMD, they all got it figured out.
Just sayin' |
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exSW ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 21 Jul 2017 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 914 |
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Guess I'll weigh in since I've been around a few. They used to be cheap. I once watched an engine and rails from one that had been changed out to a 466 sell at auction for $25.00. They also had a sequential fuel system that would run four,six or eight cylinders depending on load. Usually that got eliminated. They aren't putt putt around tractors. Big fields and full loads was what they liked best. I do believe the engine was a derivative of the 549 gas. Personally I'll take one over a 3208 CAT or a V8 Perkins every day.
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5063 |
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They run on 4 on light load, or all 8 once more load is applied. At no time do they hit on 6. It is in the pump, the 4 plunger and barrels are cut for this. When rebuilt, many choose to put all 8 same plungers in to eliminate the rough running when on 4. They do sound odd.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Brian F(IL) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paxton, IL Points: 2705 |
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I had a customer that owned one. He said it was the cause for him having to wear a hearing aid!
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Steve Bright ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Martinsville, I Points: 2104 |
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They make really nice show or parade tractors
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Joe(TX) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682 |
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I was referring to fuel usage per the Nebraska test numbers and not my opinion. I also talked to farmers of that period that had one and had the same story. I do like the V8's and would like to one.
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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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WF owner ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4889 |
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One of my neighbors has one that looks like it came off the showroom floor. He does some local parades with it.
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5971 |
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There are circumstances where engine designs in THEORY are more suitable for one application than another, and for many reasons, including, but certainly not limited to fitment, weight, visibility, serviceability, torque level, working RPM range, fuel consumption... Side effects of design always include trade-offs... with V engines having different stroke-to-rod-length ratios, inlines having longer crankshafts and taller blocks, inherent differences in piston speeds, etc., And then, there's the fact of wether or not the aforementioned circumstances play out in PRACTICE. A perfectly good engine design could flunk the Field-Use Value in a very short time due to the slightest overlook in engineering and testing... like when an engine is operating across a hillside, and the downhill rocker cover doesn't drain back to the sump, and the oil pump starts sucking air, and the rod bearings all fail... So any argument of 'better' really has nothing to do with the V vs. Inline design.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11968 |
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No such thing as a downhill side on a straight engine
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bigal121892 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: Nebraska Points: 808 |
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There is an interesting white paper by E.W. Kettering, about the development of EMD's 567 engine. When talking about the piston rod bushings, (I love this line), "Someone who didn't know that bronze bushings wouldn't work, put them in, with great success".
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JayIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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Scania engines are total crap. 10 years ago we had a couple in test cells and the leaked out of every mating surface and vibrated everything loose. We called them Skankia.
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Acdiesel ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jun 2012 Location: Rochester Ohio Points: 2570 |
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we had a 1568 at the career center in high school, that engine was worn out because it was taken apart year after year by a different group
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D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3
2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF D15 SER.2 DIESEL D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S D21 Ser. II Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
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