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Off color IH 1568 V-8

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    Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 2:48pm
I was going by Nyssa tractor salvage and thought I would stop in to see if they had any new orange, nope no luck on that.  This was setting out front, you don't see them too often so I thought I would snap a few pictures.  I did not go back in and ask them what they wanted for it.  Could probably call if you were interested.




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I'd love a 1468.  1066 is on my bucket list.
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By appearance of stacks this is a custom build not factory.
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My neighbors had a 1568 when I was a little kid.
They got rid of it 20+ years ago when they were worthless, now they are worth a small fortune.
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Quite a collectors item by IH fans. Not the best track record when they were used for farming. Neighbor had one that threw a rod out of it, fixed it, then threw another rod. Traded it for a 50 series JD. Looks like a good survivor tractor. Personally, I would rather have a 1468. You don't get the planetary transmission, and open-station was standard. they look better to me as a fender tractor. All 1568's were cab tractors. Any without a cab aren't factory.
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Ford fans love those raggedy arse V-8s Those 550s were the predecessors to all the Ford P/U  V-8s
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They weren't real popular and when the motor went a lot had DT466's stuck in them because it was cheaper and more grunt
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

By appearance of stacks this is a custom build not factory.


It's factory.  The 68 series was a 550 V8.  66 was a 414 or 436 for the 10/1466.  Pretty sought after, but the straight 6 was a much better engine.
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Originally posted by AaronSEIA AaronSEIA wrote:

Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

By appearance of stacks this is a custom build not factory.


It's factory.  The 68 series was a 550 V8.  66 was a 414 or 436 for the 10/1466.  Pretty sought after, but the straight 6 was a much better engine.
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Agree.

The frames are form fitted to the engine. If you replaced the V-8 with a Six cylinder, you had to get the Six cylinder frame rails.
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in the magazine "farm and ranch" someone put a 3208 cat v-8 in a IH 706, it looks really good.
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About 12 or 13 years ago, a friend of mine was at an auction that had two of them on the farm. The auctioneer offered choice out before he started selling them. My friend was bidding and asked me which one he should take if he won the bid. I told him take them both and I would buy one from him. He didn't bid enough so the rest is history. They sold for around $5000 back then. Hindsight.
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They were not very efficient on fuel consumption. The same HP 6 cylinders were more economical. I still like them for the sound.
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Ok before we get anything started here, we know V type engines are just as good as their 6 cylinder counterpart, just look at Scania, MTU, MAN, GE and EMD, they all got it figured out.
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Guess I'll weigh in since I've been around a few. They used to be cheap. I once watched an engine and rails from one that had been changed out to a 466 sell at auction for $25.00. They also had a sequential fuel system that would run four,six or eight cylinders depending on load. Usually that got eliminated. They aren't putt putt around tractors. Big fields and full loads was what they liked best. I do believe the engine was a derivative of the 549 gas. Personally I'll take one over a 3208 CAT or a V8 Perkins every day.
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They run on 4 on light load, or all 8 once more load is applied. At no time do they hit on 6. It is in the pump, the 4 plunger and barrels are cut for this. When rebuilt, many choose to put all 8 same plungers in to eliminate the rough running when on 4. They do sound odd. 
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I had a customer that owned one.  He said it was the cause for him having to wear a hearing aid!
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They make really nice show or parade tractors
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Originally posted by MattLF9 MattLF9 wrote:

Ok before we get anything started here, we know V type engines are just as good as their 6 cylinder counterpart, just look at Scania, MTU, MAN, GE and EMD, they all got it figured out.
Just sayin'
I was referring to fuel usage per the Nebraska test numbers and not my opinion. I also talked to farmers of that period that had one and had the same story. I do like the V8's and would like to one.
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One of my neighbors has one that looks like it came off the showroom floor. He does some local parades with it.

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Originally posted by MattLF9 MattLF9 wrote:

Ok before we get anything started here, we know V type engines are just as good as their 6 cylinder counterpart, just look at Scania, MTU, MAN, GE and EMD, they all got it figured out.


There are circumstances where engine designs in THEORY are more suitable for one application than another, and for many reasons, including, but certainly not limited to fitment, weight, visibility, serviceability, torque level, working RPM range, fuel consumption...

Side effects of design always include trade-offs... with V engines having different stroke-to-rod-length ratios, inlines having longer crankshafts and taller blocks, inherent differences in piston speeds, etc.,

And then, there's the fact of wether or not the aforementioned circumstances play out in PRACTICE.  A perfectly good engine design could flunk the Field-Use Value in a very short time due to the slightest overlook in engineering and testing... like when an engine is operating across a hillside, and the downhill rocker cover doesn't drain back to the sump, and the oil pump starts sucking air, and the rod bearings all fail...

So any argument of 'better' really has nothing to do with the V vs. Inline design.
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There is an interesting white paper by E.W. Kettering, about the development of EMD's 567 engine. When talking about the piston rod bushings, (I love this line), "Someone who didn't know that bronze bushings wouldn't work, put them in, with great success".

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Scania engines are total crap. 10 years ago we had a couple in test cells and the leaked out of every mating surface and vibrated everything loose. We called them Skankia.
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we had a 1568 at the career center in high school, that engine was worn out because it was taken apart year after year by a different group  
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