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    Posted: 21 Feb 2014 at 10:42am
Thought some might like to see photos of a rather obscure product from Allis-Chalmers, it is known here as a Valley Beater.  It is a machine that "beats" wood pulp slurry to physically break down the fibers.  It is a Laboratory machine used in the R&D of paper and wood pulp products.
 
There are two of these machines in the lab, one made by The Gates Iron Works of Appleton WI, and a newer one made after AC bought that company.
 
We can still get parts for them from Voith in Appleton.
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Years ago I saw an Allis Chalmers thickness plainer in your Algona UBC lumberyard. All gone now.
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Wow.....just when ya thought that Allis never ventured into another manufacturing environment....

Seems like it would be such a low volume of them that Allis should have never entered the market by sellin these?

I must be wrong!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTuckerNWIL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2014 at 7:23pm
I'll have to upload some pics I took today at the shop. They were just finishing up a rebuild on an Allis Chalmers drainage pump like this one, except it was rated at 10,000 gallons a minute at 12 or maybe 15 foot lift.

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Allis if I remember right actually got their start in electrical stuff didn't they? I know in Terre Haute there is some kind of industrial type electrical box. I'm going in town tomorrow I'll try to get a picture of it.
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   Hello Bret    There used to be a lot of of AC transformers/switch gear that had the porcelain AC signs most of that equipment was installed in the 1950.
   Most of the bread had been ground with AC equipment.
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about 5 minutes from my house in milford, ny is an active substation and all the transformers are allis chalmers and have the big allis stickers on them in plain site.
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the turbines in bagnal dam at the Lake of the Ozarks are Allis Chalmers
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Interesting stuff -- was quite a company.
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In 1965 I was at Hoover dam in Nv. the generators were made by AC.   MACK
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Originally posted by matt dill matt dill wrote:

Allis if I remember right actually got their start in electrical stuff didn't they? I know in Terre Haute there is some kind of industrial type electrical box. I'm going in town tomorrow I'll try to get a picture of it.
No Matt, Allis didn't.
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Can't remember what E. P. Allis got started in but I think building flour mills was an early product. Large Corliss engines came along sometime in the late 1800's too. Now I got to pull the book out.
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OK Edward Allis started out first in a partnership in the leather business then he got out and he struck out on his own and bought Decker & Seville and went to making sawmills, flour mills and castings made to order.
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Yep....that what I remember reading Lonn....

Sawmills back in the late 1800's
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OK so if you have a wood blaster aparter... and a pellet machine.. could you make your own wood pellets???
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Hi, we have quite the same beater in our studio. You mentioned you could still get parts to this machine. care to share the knowledge? We are situated in Norway, not many beaters here, as far as I know only two on private hands, and we have one of them.
It's the block which sits on the rubber under the big drum. Dismantled it, and it looks horrible. Also there seems to be some wood between the knives. Much appreciated all the advice and help.
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Velcomen to the ALLIS Chalmers web site the best site I know of ! I'm norske and both sides of my family !  Again Welcome !  Paul Haug .

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Smile Thanks Paul!

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Days gone by there was Allis Plant on north side of Pittsburgh, PA that made electric motors.    They also made some switch gear. I use to work on overhead cranes and AC electric stuff turned up here and there.   Seems early on they were into many ventures
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The world needs more of what Allis Chalmers makes...I don't know if anyone else remembers that jingle on the commercials in the '80s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Allis

This link has a little information on New York City electrical generation...the biggest Con Ed plant was built by AC....there is a huge decommissioned bucket ....an AC bucket out in front of the place with a sign that gives a breakdown of its size, how long it was in service and how much coal it moved in its work life...I can't find a picture to post... I know I have an old picture I took when I was doing a job there...but it is buried...I will have to make a point of getting by again and getting a shot or 2
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The Hydro-electric plant at Columbus NE, has AC generators.
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Everything from the rock crushers, ball and rod mills, kilns, and coolers are mostly Allis Chalmers in the iron mines of Minnesota. Even the electric motors on fans, conveyors and pumps, along with switch gear in the MCC rooms are Allis. There's big brass plaques on some of the equipment the size of street signs, wish I could get my hands on one lol
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The former MoorMans, (now ADM) feed mill in Columbus NE, had Allis-Chalmers electric motors. The Novartis plant in Lincoln, has a MCC, that is all Allis-Chalmers equipment. Up around the Petersburg NE area, there are still Allis-Chalmers transformers.
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BigAl...I think the hydro plant at Monroe,NE is also Allis. our town used to have a HUGE diesel engine that was at our power plant that was Allis. it was 2 stories tall and about 60-70 ft long. it produced power for all of the town and out to surrounding farms within about a 10 mile radius of town. then all the transformers were Allis too, i'm assuming the genny was too that that engine ran.
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I believe Allis Chalmers also made the super chargers on the B17 or B29 bombers in WWII.
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Ya , I remember because the Baseball dude Joseph Garagiola did the Radio Ads. It was always ended by "The world needs more of what Allis Chalmers makes".
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I toured the mine North of Duluth in about 1977 and the taconite plant was all Allis Chalmers in motors, switchgear, crushers, and the magnetic separators that separated the iron ore from rock. Also the conveyors were AC . It was awesome.
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Allis invented the V-belt(textrope) to replace the flat belts on a drive line in the old cloth manufacturing plants. The flat belts vibrated and jerked and made it hard to weave thread. When one machine went down they had to shut all of them down because they all were on the same power line. With the textrope each weaver had its own motor which made the operation more efficient. When ever you see a v-belt thank Allis.
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In response to the post and question by Villa from Norway:

Voith purchased the Allis paper division and are still located in Appelton, WI.

https://voith.com/usa-en/appleton-wisconsin-864.htm
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