This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


New to me WD45

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
Ed (Ont) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Nov 2009
Location: New Lowell, Ont
Points: 1491
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ed (Ont) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 8:24pm
So with these 3 bolt and 4 bolt front ends. Is just the front plate different or did they beef up some of the other components?
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Sugarmaker View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Jul 2013
Location: Albion PA
Points: 8509
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sugarmaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 8:05am
Ed,
 Not the expert here but I haven't seen any changes other than the front plate. Of course the casting it bolts to may have had some minor changes to get the material for the additional tapped holes and new locations. I am sure the change was made to strengthen that weak point of the WD wide front end design. It was only weak if the tractor was abused. I see a lot that survived as 3 bolts. Of course the two that I had both were damaged and I had to make mine into a one of a kind 7 bolt to save it! Guess I could have went and found a good 3 or 4 bolt some where. Just too cheap and bull headed.
Regards,
 Chris
D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
Back to Top
Ed (Ont) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Nov 2009
Location: New Lowell, Ont
Points: 1491
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ed (Ont) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 12:08pm
I had a machine shop make me a new 3 bolt front plate as the hole for pivot pin was egg shaped from wear. On the new plate I asked to double the thickness at pivot pin. So they welded a piece there same thickness as plate and put the correct hole thru the whole thing. I think that pivot pin is 1โ€ but canโ€™t remember for sure. Was going to drill and tap and install grease fitting but have not done that. Lol. ๐Ÿ˜€
Back to Top
Lon(MN) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Merrill Wi
Points: 2033
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lon(MN) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 12:57pm
One change from three bolt to four bolt is two bolts on the four bolt have a taper to the bolt and plate to hold it from moving. Many three bolt plates would move and egg out the holes. I have made up several of the rear supports hoping to sell some but no interest. 
Back to Top
Alberta Phil View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Alberta, Canada
Points: 3919
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alberta Phil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 2:47pm
Still a lot of WD and WD45 tractors in use around this area, quite a few with loaders.  I have 5 if I include my two parts tractors and I've never seen even one with the three bolt front mount loose or with holes wallowed out.  Maybe we're just easier on them up here!Wink
Back to Top
Sugarmaker View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Jul 2013
Location: Albion PA
Points: 8509
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sugarmaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 7:40pm
Phil,
 You guys may be easier on them!:) The one tractor that I saved had been used in the woods to skid logs. The wide front was so wore out the tire had worn one of the bolt heads in the top pivot arm on the steering shaft!  It did not have a easy life. But is fixed up and retired now! 
Don't know the back story on the other wide front, 3 bolt WD? But when I found it, the rear axle was broke in half at the spline for the bull gear. 
I got both very reasonable. 
But unlike your new one, I had to put a lot of work into making a decent one.
Enjoy that new 45!
Regards,
 Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - 13 Nov 2019 at 7:42pm
D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
Back to Top
BillinAlberta View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Saskatchewan
Points: 357
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BillinAlberta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 7:52am
Very nice tractor Phil!
  If you want to see a '45 with a wallowed out front end stop by before spring.
That job is on my to do list after going through my old G Gleaner.
Back to Top
Alberta Phil View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Alberta, Canada
Points: 3919
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alberta Phil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 9:39am
Might do that, Bill.  Haven't been down your way for a while!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum