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New project - 190XT diesel

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    Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 5:57am
I picked up a 190XT recently. It was of course in much worse condition than the seller descrided.....jumps out of almost every gear and the high side of the power director doesn't work. It runs really well, but does have a few oil and fuel leaks. I thought about putting the engine in my 190XT gas, but maybe the tractor is worth fixing the rear end. I tried posting a picture but keep getting errors that the file is too large. The grill gas bars with a plastic "one-ninety" badge in the grill.   It also has square fenders with two round light in each side. Any idea what year or series I have?
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What's the serial number?
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If you are trying to post pictures from your phone do like I do and crop the image. Just taking a little off from the outside makes a big difference. Here's some ways to narrow down the years in a 190.
A. Does it have 2 3/4 inch axles or 3 1/4 inch.
B. Decals.. they used 3 different styles.
1st had the arrow design with allis-chalmers in smaller letters at an angle.
2nd had the arrow design with allis-chalmers in larger letters written normal.
3rd was just the straight long hood decal.
C. Transmission gear pattern. Early models had a gear pattern of 1-2 4-6 3-5 7-8, later was in straight sequence.
D. Sheet metal 64-67 slant fenders,larger side panels and bar grill. 68-71 flat top fenders,2 small side panels on each side and open grill. Of course all parts can be changed over as many have throughout the years. So like Doug said serial number is the only way to pin point it down. Good luck with it,the 190xt diesel is my favorite tractor of all times
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Serial number is 20066
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You have a series 2,1968. My grandpa bought one new,it was one hell of a tractor. No 4020 or 856 could compete with it.
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Hope you didn't pay too much for it.  You are going to need a lot of money to rebuild the transmission (been there, done that).  But once everything is fixed up, you will have a great tractor!
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Thanks for the information.   What should I expect to spend on rebuilding the hi/low and rear end if I do all of the work?
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I have a 190XT with a transmission in it that will not jump out of gear,you can drive it.
The high side of the PD is out like yours too.I'll sell it in pieces or all together runs good.I'd
like to keep the rear wheels and tires to put on another tractor.
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Originally posted by allispicker allispicker wrote:

Thanks for the information.   What should I expect to spend on rebuilding the hi/low and rear end if I do all of the work?


Rebuilding the transmission alone, expect to pay around $1500 to 2000 for parts only.  If it jumps out of all the gears, there are a lot of problems in there.  Bearings, gears and collars will most likely need replacing.  Shift forks could be worn out as well.  I had to get a new input shaft for mine as well.
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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