New house electrical question

like this

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-QO-200-Amp-2-Pole-Outdoor-Circuit-Breaker-Enclosure-with-QOM2200VH-Breaker-QOM2E2200NRB/100210055

Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Some electric companies will want a double throw disconnect if you are going to have a generator.

On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)

another option is a 200 amp breaker with a small panel that you can add a 20 amp breaker below it to give you a power source out at the pole.........and the 200 amp continues thru to the house.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Eaton-Type-BR-8-Circuit-4-Space-200-Amp-Main-Breaker-Load-Center/1000963

Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Jim-

What they're referring to, is probably a 'code philosophy' that they've adopted as S.O.P. for customer distribution:

When you install a power service overhead to the side of a house, there's a meter box on the outside of the house, a short drop through rigid conduit, through an LB in the wall, to a utility panel with main disconnect. The only 'unprotected' span downstream of the meter, is that short length into the main disconnect.

On a 'farm pole' service, a pole has a weatherhead up top, with rigid EMT down to meter, then immediately below meter box is a fused disconnect switch. From there, it either goes underground to a building, or back up another piece of EMT, through weatherhead, to overheads to other buildings.

The fuseable disconnect does four things:

1) Overcurrent/short circuit protection (to keep overhead wiring, houses, and buildings from burning)

2) Supply protection- keeps pole transformers and overhead wiring from carrying fault current (fuse blows)

3) Establishes the max current of the service, to suit overhead wiring. You don't wanna pull 450A through a piece of overhead wire suitable for only 200A.

4) Safety shutoff/lock-tag - used for general service in a farm environment (overheads damaged in storms, machinery, etc), and also... provides a way of cutting power to a building in the event of a fire.

My farm is supplied through a brand-new utility pole- I replaced the VERY VERY old wooden pole with a 21' 8" square 1/4" wall steel tube with meter box and 200A switch, EMT, weatherhead, insulator, and up top, a very nice trio of LED shoebox lamps on a T-bar.

My 200A fused switchbox was REALLY costly... almost $800. Cry

I bit the bullet, and bought the right thing, because it's built specifically for that purpose.

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Our meter feeds the House and my Shop, 1000A supply with a built in full disconnect AFTER the Meter. Meter is pole mounted. I have a Generator connection at the box base all signed off by the REA as to usable as the Disconnect has to be open for generator use. Can run the house heat, shop heat and well from the buildings to keep winter at bay and still have energy to do it without injuring a lineman or trying to feed ALL the neighbors.

You also have to remember this is OUTSIDE box, so it is a little better construction and somewhat more SEALED than the inside breaker distribution boxes.

Like them all, but love the "B"s.

My electric company furnished and installed a meter with a place to put in 3 breakers if you wanted you could run 3 200 amp breakers

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Here is the spec sheet:

Its cut off but the bottom says "Will need breaker box adjacent to both meters"

Edited by JimD - 02 Feb 2019 at 6:45pm

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Ted J wrote:

JimD wrote:

Im sure those will work. Just seems odd that a fully loaded 200 ampwith breakers is less than a outdoor breaker. Guess it just stingmore since I'm doing 2 meters,

Jim, WHY are you doing two meters?
Here we pay $35 or $45 dollars per each meter we have. I used to have two, one to the house and one to the barn. Now I only have one and feed both the house and barn.

Our electrical supplier got this idea from some other outfit so they could regulate and raise more money. A LOT of the farmers around here still have at least two meters because they don't want to spend the $$$$ to change it to one.

COULD happen to you some day.....you never know, they are always looking for a new way to raise money.

Being as it's new, why not put a pedestal out somewhere and have the meter on that and feed from there? We have them around here and it has the disconnect built into that. I don't remember what I paid for mine, but it was less than $300. Paid for itself the first year.

Ted they do that because you can't take the electricity that the house uses off your taxes anyway that's why dad done it that way

Thanks Kenny, that makes sense now

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after being a fire dispatcher for many years, I learned to have a power shut off/breaker box added to the pole outside where the meter is. here when there is a fire to a house or out building the fire department won't squirt water until the power is cut to that building. that requires the electric company rep to come pull the meter. if it's in the middle of the night...that's a lot of time to wait for their rep and usually caused a total loss to the home/building owner. sometimes the fire dept did pull the meter before the power co rep got there, but after some many law suits they quit that! (it's different now) so I had a shut off installed at my house, then meter doesn't hafta be pulled. only regret was I didn't have any plug ins added to the shut off box.

I have a sequence box (meter mounting enclosure and lugs for meter) in the shop with a meter I bought off E-bay , so I know how much electric is used for shop and also have on in basement for kilns the wife had for her ceramics studio.
I know a disconnect was needed IF a meter was mounted on a central pole for farm use in many places and also some type of limiting fusing for branch circuits .
Now NEA codes are always being updated so keeping up with them is a constant study of codes .

Edited by Coke-in-MN - 03 Feb 2019 at 3:03pm

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Mother in Law's neighbor was caught power tapping from a rental home next to their live in home. He had added four extension cords underground to snitch power to run the washer and drier and a few rooms lights on the rental meter. Got caught when two of the four burnt up in winter and left a heat trail in the ground between the two, damned lucky did not set BOTH houses on fire. He weren't none two brite!!

Will this work for 200 amp service from meter to breaker box?

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