New Forum / odd thing

Butch, ocharry, MIke, Ted,

Sounds like I'm years behind you guys. When I was growing up we never worried about all these things, we just shot. I just beginning to understand ballistics. Big rock vs. little rock. You can certainly can throw a little rock farther/faster, but you can definitely do more damage with a big one. Everyone understands that. Why then does a heavier bullet have an advantage at longer distance? I suppose it has something to do with momentum. I understand lighter bullets slow quicker. I have no doubt that I could throw a golf ball farther than a ping pong ball. None of this explains accuracy. I knew lighter bullets had less drop, thus must be more accurate. When my friend and I were at the range, I shot a tighter group at 200yds with his .223 than I did with my 30-06 at 100yds. I guess I was hoping to turn my 30-06 into a .223 by switching to lighter ammo. I'd like to thank you all for explaining the barrel twist will likely not allow this. I believe I need to do as y'all say, learn my gun, practice, and try different ammo to see what shoots best. It won't happen over night.

I didn't know they made rifle ammunition like that. I remember seeing sabot shotgun slugs in outdoor magazines years ago. At one time I really wanted a rifled shotgun barrel for my Rem 870. I think their popularity must have faded.

Ranse..the 30 cal. Just seems to do better with the 165-175gr bullets in a 1-10 twist at that 26-2800fps velocity.... Not saying your gun won't do better or worse....but I would bet it will do better than the 150gr stuff you are using....set up a target at 100yrds and shoot a couple 5 shot groups....with your 150gr bullets...get a couple different boxes of the heavier bullets to compare...box of hornady...box of federal...like that...at worst you have some extra hunting bullets....you just might find something better than you are using

I have a 308 that will make a 5shot ragged hole you can cover with a dime at 100 with 175gr bullets...they are hand loads but it shows improvement over a 168gr bullet...just for example

You are using factory loads BUT..if you look...something out there will shoot better than others

The heavier bullets do hit harder and carry a bigger smack down...they are also less wind susceptible.... They do not shoot as flat...BUT it sounds like you will be shooting at a given range...just zero there and learn a little hold over or under...it will come...unless you want to be a knob twister...lol...and then you can range twist and smack...lol

Just trying to help you understand some of this stuff

OR you could get a flatter shooting less recoiling rifle...with sweet trigger...phat barrel...oooh now them totes is in the danger zone fur shut

Nice 257..I like the quarter cals....uhhh...I will be quiet before I get us both in trouble

Ocharry

Edited by ocharry - 05 Mar 2019 at 9:21pm

Ranse , shotguns and sabots in Michigan have somewhat faded away since the DNR have allowed hunters to use straight walled rifle cartridges such as the 450 Bushmaster. Less recoil than a 12 gauge and better accuracy and cost per round is less . Sabots are expensive ,usually from $12 to $15 for a box of 5. 450 Bushmaster is $25 for 20 rounds. I shot a Coyote at 100 yds. with my 450 Bushmaster. A 250 grain bullet travelling 2200 feet per second did not leave a pretty picture! One less Coyote to try and eat my Chickens! As others on this forum have posted with great advice if you are truly interested in shooting accurately get together with some friends and target shoot .And get a good rest and hearing protection. A friend of mine took a girl shooting who was interested but concerned about the gun recoil and noise. Jim started her on a .22 with good ear muff protection. She now hunts deer with a 12 gauge!