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New Book / Top 10 Allis-Chalmers Tractor

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My post to this forum 3 years ago says I didn't get any pictures of the AC fuel cell tractor.

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/fuel-cell-tractor_topic102620.html

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The UC needs a place in the sun because it could handle 4 row equipment. Built from 1929 - 1960 in some form or another.

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220 first to get FWA
190 - 200 would have been first to have air conditioning.     
170 - 200 could have had a quick changing 540/1000 pto (I have seen a 170 with it)

7040 and 7060 were the first to get a 2 range 6 speed power shift transmission.



Edited by Unit3 - 05 Feb 2018 at 9:19pm
2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerald J. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Feb 2018 at 10:11pm
Googling "Allis Chalmers fuel cell tractor" brought up a bunch of pictures and a few descriptive links.

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If you are looking for the top 10 influential tractors to the industry that Allis built my list would be this. In no particular order and it will be more than 10.

WC - (1934 and the styled and electic lights and starter in 1938) and for other reasons I stated before.

B - (1937) for price and simplicity and streamlined styling and the "wasp" torque tube. It was copied my several manufactures.

E - (1918) because of the wet sleeve design engine and later E production because of installing an air filtration system, a fuel filtration system and an engine oil filtration system. No other tractor had all three.

U - (1929) (first known as the United tractor in 1928) for it's introduction of low pressure rubber tires in 1931 and installing tires as standard equipment by 1932. UC was the row crop version.

WD - (1948) for it's sales numbers that even surpassed the IH M at one point, for spin out rear wheels that everyone else eventually offered, and it's traction booster system that used lower linkage sensing rather than top linkage sensing.

WD45 - (1953) for it sales numbers that again surpassed IH at some point in it's class and surprising power in the field that made other tractors look stupid. For it's use of the helical gear transmission that quieted up the tractor a lot. Helical gears were first introduced in the CA in 1950 and before that in the AC crawler line in 1947.

D14 - (Spring 1957) for it's introduction of the extremely reliable Power Director two speed power shift. Reliability that no other power shift had for another decade or more. Also it introduced the Roll Shift front axle that allowed tread width adjustment using the tractor's power steering with out jacks. Keep in mind it also used the spin out rear wheels that allowed tractor power to adjust the wheel tread width without jacks that the WD introduced earlier.

D19 - (1961) solely for it's introduction to the agricultural world the turbocharged diesel engine. Oh and the first use of a dry type air filter.

D21 - (1963) for it's large "ballroom" sized operator's platform that took most manufacturers another decade to match, a 12 position adjustable seat, and one of the first to have tilt steering wheel. And for it being the largest row crop tractor at it's introduction with 103 PTO HP in 1963 and again when the Series II came out in 1965 with 127 PTO HP. The rest of the competition had to play catch up in row crop power and comfort. It also was the first to use an alternator instead of the finicky generator.

190/190XT - (1964/1965 respectively) again for it's surprising power punch in the field and it's untouchable fuel economy and torque reserve and the right hand console controls copied by nearly every manufacturer. The XT especially was a hot performer!

7030/7050 - (January 1973) introduction of the 7000 series and they introduced the pressure and flow compensated hydraulic system (PFC) that nearly every big tractor uses today including Deere. Unmatched reliability in drive line components, the quietest cab in the industry at the time (Acousta Cab), in cab hydraulic flow control to the remotes, quick removable hood side sheets, ground level fueling, swing out battery access. Serviceability matched by no other at the time.

7080 - (1974) Most powerful row crop 2wd tractor in the industry.

7040/7060 - they came out in late 1974 but introduced the extremely reliable 12 speed Power Shift in 1975.

The Black Belly 7000 series - (1977) a line which set new records for quietest cab once again with the Acousta Cab II.

The 8000 series- (December 1981) for it's unmatched cab design, roominess, ergonomics, comfort and visibility for its time.


If I had to pick 10 from that list it would be the E, WC, B, WD, WD45, D19, D21, 190/190XT, 7050/7030, 8000 Series. Really the D14 should be in the mix too. Maybe instead of the E as the E never hit a very high market share despite of how important the innovations were on the E.
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walk around all D models and I think you'll conclude like many of us that it is the best looking tractor that Allis ever built
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without doubt the B has to be at the top of the list.
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I am really surprised no one has mentioned the D17 series IV.  It may not be the most revolutionary tractor, but it was the first AC with live modern day pressure/volume hydraulics, independent PTO and 2 speed wet clutch power director.  It was a good size, ergonomically comfortable, with lots of power, very nimble and extremely reliable.  In my opinion it is Allis's best tractor ever built.  A new tractor of its size really doesn't have any options that you couldn't get on a D17 except maybe cab and AC.

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I was going to make a post but I think Lonn covered everything i wanted to say. Great post Lonn.
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Lee,
 Welcome to the Allis forum! You sure have come to the right place! Some of these tractors get handed down from one generation to the next. Family ties to Allis equipment run deep. I would vote along with others for the WD45 to be in the mix. It was a very influential piece of in my young life growing and working on a dairy farm in NWPA. I just purchased my first WD45 last fall.  Its predecessor the WD was also spwcial and I was able to restore one that has been in the family since 1950. Just gave it to my grandson and his son last summer.
Good luck with your research! Looking forward to reading your AC book/s!
Regards,
 Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - 06 Feb 2018 at 2:50pm
D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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