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    Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 10:56pm
Spent 2 days last week looking for my log chains and chain binders. Needed to haul the skid loader to #2 sons. Couldn't find them anywhere. Old Red was hooked to the trailer ready to go, so I took the van to town and bought 2 new chains and binders. $167.00 dollars later i headed home. Today I unlooked that trailer so I could hook up the car toter. The spare tire had come unbolted and fell over. I found the 2 dang chains and binders under the spare tire. Dog gone I had looked in the back of that truck. I just watched log chains sell at a consignment auction 2 weeks ago, They was less than 1/2 the price of those new ones. Makes a non drinker want start again.
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Them chains we all use to use to tie things down now need a special load rating stamp on them to satisfy them DOT guys . 
 Had one of them fellows question my chains one time , as they were 5/8 Link heavy chains - then he seen the tag hanging off chain by hook - seems I got the chains from friend who was doing RR salvage and they came off RR flat cars and had certification tags on them .
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One of the sneak questions DOT boys use to issue questionable tickets.
Once a chain is bought and used awhile how does one positively ID it as a type 70 load chain? You can’t other than hooks that MAY be marked.
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The gold coloring from the Grade 70 chains comes off after a few years. The hooks say Grade 70 on them, but I have no idea how to identify the chain grade.

When I bought the chains I have, they were 20' long, which was way too long (for me) to secure a tractor. I bought some Grade 70 hooks and cut the chains into 12' and 8'. I painted the hooks on the 12' chains orange and the 8' chains black. I still have a couple 20' chains that are unpainted. When I want a chain out of the trailer toolbox, I can tell how long they are, by the hooks.
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My grade 70 chains have GR70 stamped into every link. They're not the cheap Chinese ones from all the farm stores. 
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The last I bought from a reputable supplier and not a farm store had no stamp on links.
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I know where you're coming from, I used to buy chains on auctions to hang on tractors and put in garage. Always missing, until you get another then POOFF the lost is found. 

 My 4 G70 5/16"x 16' haul chains are marked on link about every foot & the hooks, but they're over 25 years old. My hauling chains & binders & straps are in boxes behind passenger side seat in pickup. Also 1 in the cab of loader tractor and 1 shorty in a box on skid loader. My 2 shop chains hang from the cherry picker in shop. 
 
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All my grade 70 hauling chains and boomers etc live in the tool box on the front of my equipment trailer.  All my other general use chains hang on a wall mounted chain rack in the machine shed.  The tire chains also hang on wall racks close to the tractors.  I can't stand lookin all over for a chain when I need one!!  I might be a little anal on organization but it sure makes life easier.LOL
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Load securing Grade 70 chains are stamped, as are the hooks.  Import hooks sometimes have a working load rating, but I would NOT recommend ever expecting half of that.  Usually they just stamp the SIZE on 'em.

A chain for overhead lifting will have a certification tag with it's load rating in several configurations (i.e. straight, basket, etc) for which it has been designed, proof-tested, and certified for load.

DOT chain requirements don't require a certification tag, but if you have a chain WITH one, the enforcement officer will USUALLY be sharp enough to spot it, and know what it means.  It's better to use transport chain, because transport is hard on an expensive piece of hoist rigging.

Grade 70 'proof' chain is NOT for overhead lifting.  The use of 70,000psi steel is for abrasion resistance, both on exterior of the links, and INSIDE the link's bends, but it is more brittle than lifting chain, so it won't ever get a tag.

The term 'proof', means it was applied to it's working load plus some margin (IIRC, it's about 300% for transport, and 1000% for hoisting.  In manufacturing, they actually feed the chain through a pair of hoist capstans, down to a physical load, and back up, and in doing so, the continuous feed applies the test working load to find any weaknesses.  Pretty cool.  Works like a weight hanging in a grandfather clock.

They do the same type of rating and proof testing of shackles, hooks, and eyes...

But there's nothing at all they can do about poor focus... there's just no way.

But hey, if you pin up a Hooters calendar at the end of the hallway, they'll get a little exercise...Wink

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