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Need help with 829 conditioner.

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    Posted: 03 Jun 2023 at 9:17am
I would like to see if someone had a schematic of the wheel hub. I need to order the bearings and I ha e nothing left to figure out part numbers. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you

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Whats it's wheel hub parts number? Q709? Q777?
If you locate wheel hub number the rest is easy. Look over your wheel hub for a braille part number usually placed on backside of hub, not it's face where wheel mounts.
Reply with that number & I'll probably have bearings/seal info.  Or, take that hub number to a good auto parts store & let them help you.
If Q709 hub, then outer bearings/race is LM48548/LM48510, inner bearing/race is LM67048/LM67010, hub seal 41461S national (CR15190).

To that end, you're best to measure;
-Axle's diameters where both inner & outer bearings rest, plus it's seal diameter.
Then after hammering out wheel hub's innner & outer bearing races, measure their outside diameters, plus it's seal diameter. Take hub to auto parts store to verify parts fit.
 


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Bearing and race should have a number on them.              MACK
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Just like Mack said - the other guy,, WOW,, simple question
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What if it isn't that simple because it's too rusted up? He said he has nothing left to work from. He gave us just about all the information needed to get allis numbers from a parts book like he asked.

I will check my book and report back with information for both sides since he doesn't say that.

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So…it really isn’t that easy.  The inner brg has the seal attached.

Outer brg              327527
Outer race             328002
Inner brg w/seal    531251
Inner race.            327997

Hub 4 bolt             537974
Hub 6 bolt.            540781

Spindle 4 bolt        547641
Spindle 6 bolt        558598
Dust cover            325531

There were numbers for nut and washer but they were common parts. 5/8 nf castle nut and plain washer.

If you have more questions please ask!
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Welcome to the forum.
Probably can cross those numbers into venders numbers if you still need help.
Allis used to make wheel bearing kits and kit number was 548261
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A good local auto parts store may offer these cross reference parts to Im4racin’s AC part numbers. Thanks Im4racin & Mikez for supplying actual AC numbers.
I paired Im4racin’s bearing/cups part numbers together and found the following:

AC 327527/328002 ~
Timken LM11949 bearing cone ID 0.75”, width 0.71”.
Timken LM11910 cup, OD 2.79”, width 0.71”.

AC 531251/327997 ~
?? Timken LM67000LA-LM67010 Tapered roller bearing set with seal, ID 1.25”, OD 2 21/64”, width 5/8” (LM67048LA/10 ITJ) ??

531251 was difficult to cross reference. Maybe someone else can confirm my findings? Maybe try LM67048LA/10 ITJ? It specifies the following info on BearingsDirect.com
IMO, It’s application seems out of place? So best to fit check this set to your wheel hub at the parts counter before purchasing?
Can’t get a reference using either 4 or 6 bolt hub part numbers or Mikez’s kit number 548261.
Sanderdoc, welcome to the AC forum. The wheel hub braille part number, if available, might help confirm my findings?

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Key Features
LM67000LA/10 Tapered Roller Bearings consist of a two piece cup and cone assembly with a rubber seal. The outer ring makes up the cup and the inner ring, rollers, cage and rubber seal assembly make the cone. These parts of the bearing are detachable, the cone assembly is narrower in one end and the races are built with one side narrower as well to match the rollers. This design makes this bearing capable of supporting heavy loads in both axial and radial directions. Our LM67000LA/10 Tapered Roller Bearings are ideal for environments where high speed and heavy loads occur, and low friction is needed.

Applications / Industries
LM67000LA/10 Tapered Roller Bearings are designed for many applications such as Gearboxes, Hoisting Equipment, Rolling Mills, Mining Industry Machines, Steer axle, Drive axles, Pusher axles, Tag axles, Engines, and Propellers.
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The bearing with the seal attached is a fairly common one.  A lot of New Holland equipment has used it in the past.  It also appears that the bearings are still available at AGCO.  Just put a 70 in front of the part numbers.  So if you have an AGCO dealer or a New Holland dealer close to you they should be able to help you out.
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