need help 16b growing oil

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   Went to use my 16b this morning and the oil was way over full and the rad which is always full was low. Thinking liner orings.three years ago had the oil cooler fixed because I was getting oil in rad,don't think this is the problem now. Plan on taking the pan off and press Izes  system. Anyone have any better ideas. Don't really have time to mess with,I farm for a living and other equipment is more important  than  dozer right now.feel free to give me a call at 2529162927

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hd16b Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote hd16b Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: need help 16b growing oil Posted: 31 Jan 2015 at 8:26am
	Went to use my 16b this morning and the oil was way over full and the rad which is always full was low. Thinking liner orings.three years ago had the oil cooler fixed because I was getting oil in rad,don't think this is the problem now. Plan on taking the pan off and press Izes system. Anyone have any better ideas. Don't really have time to mess with,I farm for a living and other equipment is more important than dozer right now.feel free to give me a call at 2529162927

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DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29542	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jan 2015 at 8:31am
	Before you crank it at all and before you drop the pans, take the drain plug loose and see if coolant comes out first. Don't take the plug full out just to last of threads and wiggle it as water will flow where oil won't. No water or coolant and then check for fuel in oil, dab dipstick to a piece of dry cardboard, it spreads rapidly it is fuel.

hd16b Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote hd16b Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Feb 2015 at 7:01am
	Thanks dmiller,it took all day to move it to the shop,take the blade off,take belly pan plus engine covers off,power wash it,and finally drive it on boards to the back corner of the shop. I did however crack the drain plug and sure enough it was antifreeze. Plan on taking pan off Monday morning. Anyone know where I can get a good engine kit from other than minnpar,I priced them and got scared.

DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29542	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Feb 2015 at 7:33am
	Illini is a vendor with ads here, have been a few others mention some companies on other posts.

Lazyts Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Manitoba Points: 627	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lazyts Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2015 at 12:16pm
	If only one liner is pitted, you might get by with doing one hole... just hope it isn't #6, I think you have to remove the oscillating beam to access that cylinder for an in frame rebuild. (Never done one, but that is what I've been told) Another source is Endurance Power Products for engine parts. Could also be liner O-rings, but liner pitting is quite common on 855 Cummins for sure, especially if coolant is not changed regularly. Some guys here used to drain the coolant on their engines in the off season to prevent water in the oil, too, as they tended to leak past the O-rings in the winter.

hd16b Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote hd16b Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2015 at 8:16pm
	Got the pan off this afternoon, number 3 and 6 were leaking, 3 being much worse.plan on taking heads off tomorrow, seems to be lots of room to work,hope I can get all the sleeves out.took some pics but don't know how to post on here.

Lazyts Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Manitoba Points: 627	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lazyts Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 2015 at 9:04am
	Ok, I thought it strange that there wouldn't be enough room, but an old guy told me he had bought a 16B where they had only done 5 cylinders because they couldn't get to the back cylinder, weird huh?